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Earthquakes; Global Tax & Money; Government Monitoring; Islamic Ire; Doomsday Clock

Monday, March 1st, 2010

(March 1, 2010) In the wake of the earthquakes in Haiti and Chile, MSNBC has an article on the increase of earthquakes around the world. (Big quake question: Are they getting worse?) The author writes, “One scientist, however, says that relative to the time period from the mid-1970s to the mid-1990s, Earth has been more active over the past 15 years or so.” He quotes a geophysicist as saying, “We still do not know the reason for this yet. Could simply be the natural temporal variation of the stress field in the earth’s lithosphere.” (The lithosphere is the outer solid part of the Earth.)” Jesus gave signs to His disciples to look for when the end is near, “3 As He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, ‘Tell us, when will this be, and what will be the sign of Your coming and of the close of the age?’ 4 And Jesus answered them, ‘Take heed that no one leads you astray. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray. 6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that you are not alarmed; for this must take place, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places: 8 all this is but the beginning of the labor pains.” (Matthew 24:3-8) Leading into the End-Times Jesus said that false religious leaders, wars, famines, and earthquakes would increase in various places. He likened these events to labor pains which means they will become increasingly more painful and occur closer and closer together. The recent earthquake activity may be a precursor to what Jesus says will happen before the end.

Global Economy

The Prime Minister of England said that a global tax is near. (Global bank tax near, says Brown) The article states, “Gordon Brown said on Wednesday the world’s leading economies were close to agreeing a global bank tax, amid hopes in Downing Street that a deal can be concluded at the G20 summit in Canada in June.”  U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi endorses a global tax on stock trades and other financial transactions. (Pelosi Endorses ‘Global’ Tax on Stocks, Bonds, and other Financial Transactions)

In a related story the International Monetary Fund proposed a new global reserve currency. (Head of IMF Proposes New Reserve Currency) The article states, “the head of the International Monetary Fund, suggested Friday that the organization one day might be called upon to provide countries with a global reserve currency that would serve as an alternative to the U.S. dollar.”

The London Telegraph Newspaper economics commentator, Edmund Conway, recently wrote a column titled “I’m Dreaming of a Cashless Christmas” in which he said “This is a bold statement to make: currency has been an integral part of our world, in one way or another, since 3,000BC. But the simple fact is that we can survive without it. In fact, abolishing notes and coins could make the world and its economies far less dysfunctional.” (I’m Dreaming of a Cashless Christmas)  Some of the comments that followed his article brought up the issues of the “Mark of the Beast” and the “New World Order”. This caused Mr. Conway to write a followup article: (The New World Disorder) “A couple of weeks ago I wrote a column about the possibility that at some point in the future we may abandon cash in favour of electronic payments. I expected to receive a pretty healthy dose of criticism for what was a pretty radical suggestion; what I hadn’t expected was the direction in which that criticism would soon flow. Within a few comments, I was being accused of being part of a vast global conspiracy to create a New World Order (NWO, I gather one should shorten it to) in which the absence of cash would be a key factor. Well, to be more precise, the end of hard currency would also coincide with the introduction of a world government, a world currency and so on – you get the general idea.” He goes on to say he is not part of any conspiracy to “replace national governments with an international super-authority, though I’m flattered some of our readers believe I would ever be considered by the authorities to be worth involving in such an enterprise.”  However, Mr. Conway makes an observation about possible collusion amongst the world’s governments that I believe overlooks the bigger picture:

“And yet rumours of an NWO are still more pervasive than ever before. Why? In part, because members of governments around the world do talk to each other a lot, most often in open and usually well-reported fora (ie the IMF, UN, EC, Davos, the G7 and G20 etc). The whole premise of many of these multilateral meetings is precisely in order to forge a more internationalist style of politics where every country’s leadership thinks not merely of their own voters but also of the interests of overseas nations when they create policy. But this push is less an attempt to create an NWO than it is to avert the opposite – the threat of war. Remember – these institutions were set up in the wake of the Second World War, when politicians were trying to pull every lever they could to ensure there wouldn’t be a third war. So the conspiracy theorists are right: there is a push towards international government – but to suggest they could overreach each nation’s individual national interests is really endowing them with far more capability than they have…

Throughout my time covering economics and politics for a number of newspapers, I have come over time to the conclusion not that there is a carefully orchestrated global plan being masterminded by leading politicians (be it to create a NWO or, in some other way, to dupe people out of their liberty or prosperity) but that the politicians and policymakers have less of a clue about what to do than the rest of us. It’s been obvious every step of the way through this financial crisis – and that to me is actually rather scarier than the idea of a conspiracy. Are these people, who have stumbled their way from one disaster to another, really capable of engineering a global conspiracy, overturning peoples’ deep local tribalism? Not a chance.”

I agree with Mr. Conway that the politicians of the world are incapable of uniting the earth under one “flag”. However, the Bible declares that one man, unlike any other human who has ever lived, will by demonic power unify a large part of the earth’s governments under his administration:  “4 And they worshipped the dragon [the Devil] which gave power unto the beast [the Antichrist] and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” (Revelation 13:4-8)

Whether or not these economic policies take place, it is just another indicator of the technological state of the world which allows for the global monitoring of financial transactions and the unification of the global economy. The Bible declares in the last days that some type of global economic system will be in place and run by the Antichrist and his government. “16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.” (Revelation 13:16-18)

Government Monitoring

There have been some recent news stories (just like the global economic  monitoring that is now technologically possible) about government monitoring in other areas of citizen’s lives. In Australia, the government has monitored Australian’s waste usage with microchips placed in their trash cans. (Spy chips hidden in 2.5 MILLION dustbins)  The U.S. Department of Homeland Security and the National Security Agency said they may use a software technology called Einstein to monitor Internet communications on private networks in order to combat cyber attacks. (Feds weigh expansion of Internet monitoring)  Neither of these stories necessarily impute a sinister motive on the part of these governments in using the technology available. The point is that the technology is available for the first time in history to closely monitor the habits and behaviors of human beings. One day an evil government will use this techonology for its own evil designs. 

Islamic Wrath

Libyan leader Moamer Kadhafi has called for Jihad against the country of Switzerland because of that country’s ban on the building of Islamic minarets. (Kadhafi calls for jihad against Switzerland over minaret ban) Kadhafi stated, “It is against unbelieving and apostate Switzerland that jihad ought to be proclaimed by all means…Jihad against Switzerland, against Zionism, against foreign aggression is not terrorism.” This is not the isolated rambling of a rogue dictator as Hamas, Hezbollah, Iranian Leaders, and Saudi Arabian Wahhabism have illustrated over and over again. The one world religious system spoken of in Revelation ch. 13 may refer to Islam’s attempt to convert the rest of the world to their faith and laws.

Doomsday Clock; Supernova

The Doomsday Clock, an invention of scientists originally used to illustrate how close the world is to nuclear devastation and now includes climate devastation, was set back recently because of the policies of President Obama. (Doomsday clock is moved one minute further AWAY from fateful midnight… thanks to Obama)   This article reports, “The Doomsday Clock was created in 1947, two years after the U.S dropped the first atomic bombs on Japan in World War II. It was originally set at seven minutes to midnight. It has been altered 19 times since then by the Bulletin’s scientific board. The latest recorded time was two minutes to midnight in 1953 as the Cold War heated up between the U.S and Soviet Union.” I find it ironic that this clock was created in 1947 because in November of that year the United Nations voted to create the nation of Israel. The next year on May 14, 1948 the nation of Israel was born. This event started the real Doomsday clock. God laid out a timeframe in the Book of Ezekiel:

“1 The hand of the LORD was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones, 2 And caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry. 3 And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest. 4 Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD. 5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live: 6 And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD. 7 So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone. 8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them. 9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live. 10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army. 11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel.” (Ezekiel 37:1-11)

In 1948 I believe that God raised the Jews from their “graves” and returned them to the land of Israel as a dry, secular nation. The next stage in the process involves putting sinews or muscles on the nation of Israel. This is mere speculation on my part but it may be that the powerful Israeli military may be a partial fulfillment of this part of Ezekiel’s prophecy. Muscles are an indicator of the strength of a body and the Israeli army has been an indicator of the strength of the Jews’ will to survive and live. 

The next phase of the dry bones vision stated that the nation of Israel would have flesh and skin put on it. The Bible does not speak highly of human flesh. It uses “flesh” as a metaphor for our sinful natures, which try to please God by good works or rebel against Him by evil works. I believe it is possible that when the Jews rebuild the third or Tribulation Temple, this will fulfill the flesh stage of their rebirth as a nation. They will believe they are honoring God with their new Temple and sacrifices yet the Antichrist will actually be using them for his purposes. 

This brings us to the final stage of the dry bones vision. God declared that He will put His breath or Spirit in the nation of Israel and they will be His people and He will be their God. This will take place at the second coming of Jesus Christ. The prophet Zechariah spoke of this event: 

“And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.” (Zechariah 12:10) 

This passage is a reference to the second coming of Jesus Christ when the whole world will look on Him whom they pierced. God at that time will pour out His Spirit upon Israel and they will receive God’s Servant Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. 

The last part of this vision of Ezekiel’s declares that God’s Servant will be King over the Jews and the land of Israel. Again, this refers to the Messianic Kingdom over which Jesus will reign.

Thus, I believe the real Doomsday Clock began ticking with the creation of the modern state of Israel.

Israeli Prime Minister: Ezekiel 37 fulfilled;
EU: Divide Jerusalem

Sunday, February 28th, 2010
Jerusalem at Night
Jerusalem at Night

(February 28, 2010)  Speaking in Poland on the 65th anniversary of the liberation of the Auschwitz concentration camp, Israeli Prime Minister Benyamin Netanyahu said that modern Israel fulfills the “Dry Bones” prophecy of Ezekiel ch. 37. (Netanyahu: Ezekiel 37 Fulfilled in Israel)  He declared, “Armed with the Jewish spirit, the justice of man, and the vision of the prophets, we sprouted new branches and grew deep roots. Dry bones became covered with flesh, a spirit filled them, and they lived and stood on their own feet, as Ezekiel prophesied: 

Then He said to me, ‘Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. They indeed say, ‘Our bones are dry, our hope is lost, and we ourselves are cut off!’ Therefore prophesy and say to them, thus says the Lord God, ‘Behold, O My people, I will open your graves and cause you to come up from your graves and bring you into the land of Israel. Then you shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O My people, and brought you up from your graves.’” 

Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu Speech

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I believe the creation of the modern state of Israel in 1948 was the beginning of the fulfillment of Ezekiel’s Dry Bones vision. I discuss this in ch. 18 of my book Even at the Doors: 

The Old Testament prophet Ezekiel began his ministry around the year 593 B.C.  God had given to him several visions concerning the fate of the Jews and the nation of Israel. I believe that one of these visions is the key to the timing of God’s plans for the last days: 

“1 The hand of the LORD was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones, 2 And caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry. 3 And He said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest. 4 Again He said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD. 5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live: 6 And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD. 7 So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone. 8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them. 9 Then said He unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live. 10 So I prophesied as He commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army. 11 Then He said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts. 12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O My people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. 13 And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O My people, and brought you up out of your graves, 14 And shall put My Spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD. 15 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying, 16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel his companions: 17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand. 18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these? 19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand. 20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes. 21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: 22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all. 23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be My people, and I will be their God. 24 And David My servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one Shepherd: they shall also walk in My judgments, and observe My statutes, and do them. 25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children’s children for ever: and My servant David shall be their Prince for ever. 26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set My sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. 27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 28 And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when My sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.” (Ezekiel 37:1-28) 

In this vision God reveals to Ezekiel the future of the Jewish nation Israel. He shows Ezekiel a valley full of very dry bones that represent Israel. God speaks to these bones and tells them that He is going to put breath into them so that they may come to life. However, this process is going to occur in stages. 

First, He will cause the bones to come up out of their graves. Then He will put sinews or muscles on them. Next, He will cause flesh to grow upon them and then cover them with skin. Lastly, He will put His breath or Spirit upon them that they may come to life. 

Some Christians adhere to the doctrine of Replacement Theology which denies that the Jews have a right to live in the land of Israel. This teaching states that the modern nation of Israel is not a fulfillment of prophecy because the Jews are in unbelief when it comes to accepting Jesus as the Messiah. I illustrated how God still keeps His covenants with the Jews even while they are in unbelief. (See ch. 17 – Replacement Theology) It is interesting that the description Ezekiel gives of these bones that represent the Jewish nation of Israel is that they are very dry. In other words, they are spiritually dry or dead. It isn’t until the end of the process that they become spiritually alive. That the Jews do not currently believe that Jesus is the Messiah is actually a fulfillment of this part of Ezekiel’s prophecy. 

God says that He will begin the process of restoring the Jews to the land of Israel by taking them up out of their graves and bringing them into the land of Israel. The metaphor God uses here probably refers to the “graves” that the Jews were in when He dispersed them to the nations around the world. He declares that He will take them from every nation and bring them back to the land of Israel. However, I believe that there is also a literal aspect to this metaphor. 

In the 1930s and 1940s, the Nazi government of Germany tried to exterminate the Jewish people from the face of the earth. They did succeed in killing more than 6,000,000 Jews before the world stopped them. The Allied armies discovered the concentration camps and the gas ovens and mass graves that contained these Jews. Two years after World War II ended, the countries of the world, via the United Nations, gave the land of Israel back to the Jews. In this case, the Jews were literally taken from their graves and brought back to the land of Israel. 

There has been a debate in certain theological circles as to why God allowed the Holocaust to occur. Some say that it was the Jews’ punishment for rejecting God’s Son, Jesus Christ, as the Messiah. I do not believe that at all. Rather I believe the Holocaust was an attempt by Satan to thwart God’s end-times plans. 

Several times in the Bible just before God was going to fulfill His plans, Satan tried to stop them. God was going to use Moses to deliver the Jews from bondage in Egypt. Satan’s plan was to have Moses killed as a baby by inciting the pharaoh to issue a decree ordering the Jews to kill all their newborn male babies. This tactic failed and Moses did fulfill God’s plan. Next, God sent His Son to deliver humanity from its bondage to sin. Satan incited King Herod to kill all the newborn male babies in Bethlehem in order to kill Jesus. This attempt failed and Jesus fulfilled the mission that God gave Him. I believe that Satan knew God was about to fulfill His plan of bringing the Jews back to the land of Israel in 1948 and used the Nazis to try and stop this from occurring. Again, Satan’s diabolical plan failed and God brought the Jews back to Israel after eighteen hundred years. Though Satan may have been behind the Holocaust, he found willing human servants in the Nazi regime. (Likewise, I believe Satan is still trying to hinder God’s plan through the conflict between the Jews and the Arabs. The fact that many Arabs want to “drive the Jews into the sea” is illustrative of his influence to harm God’s chosen people). 

Thus, in 1948 I believe that God raised the Jews from their “graves” and returned them to the land of Israel as a dry, secular nation. The next stage in the process involves putting sinews or muscles on the nation of Israel. This is mere speculation on my part but it may be that the powerful Israeli military may be a partial fulfillment of this part of Ezekiel’s prophecy. Muscles are an indicator of the strength of a body and the Israeli army has been an indicator of the strength of the Jews’ will to survive and live. 

The next phase of the dry bones vision stated that the nation of Israel would have flesh and skin put on it. The Bible does not speak highly of human flesh. It uses “flesh” as a metaphor for our sinful natures, which try to please God by good works or rebel against Him by evil works. I believe it is possible that when the Jews rebuild the third or Tribulation Temple, this will fulfill the flesh stage of their rebirth as a nation. They will believe they are honoring God with their new Temple and sacrifices yet the Antichrist will actually be using them for his purposes. 

This brings us to the final stage of the dry bones vision. God declared that He will put His breath or Spirit in the nation of Israel and they will be His people and He will be their God. This will take place at the second coming of Jesus Christ. The prophet Zechariah spoke of this event: 

“And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.” (Zechariah 12:10) 

This passage is a reference to the second coming of Jesus Christ when the whole world will look on Him whom they pierced. God at that time will pour out His Spirit upon Israel and they will receive God’s Servant Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. 

The last part of this vision of Ezekiel’s declares that God’s Servant will be King over the Jews and the land of Israel. Again, this refers to the Messianic Kingdom over which Jesus will reign. 

Mr. Netanyahu is correct in relating Ezekiel’s prophecy to the modern state of Israel. However, the complete fulfillment won’t occur until the second coming of Jesus Christ. 

European Union Says Divide Jerusalem

In December Sweden proposed an initiative to persuade European Union members to recognize East Jeruslem as the capital of Palestine. (Israel slams Sweden’s Jerusalem division plan) One of the End-Times judgments of God states, “1 For behold, in those days and at that time, when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, 2 I will gather all the nations and bring them down to the valley of Jehoshaphat, and I will enter into judgment with them there, on account of My people and My heritage Israel, because they have scattered them among the nations, and have divided up My land.” (Joel 3:1-2) God will judge those nations who divide up His land, a land that He gave to His chosen people, the Jews. 

In the King James Bible Jerusalem is mentioned 670 times in the Old Testament. Jerusalem is mentioned 144 times in the New Testament. Jerusalem is mentioned 0 (zero) times in the Qur’an. God gave the land to the Jews with an unconditional covenant He made with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob.  As Ezekiel prophesied above; “And [I] shall put My Spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land.” (Ezekiel 37:14) God will put the Jews in their own land, Israel! Those who oppose the Jews’ right to the land of Israel may find themselves opposed to the will of God and may one day fall under His judgment.

Islam and End-Times Prophecy

Monday, February 22nd, 2010

(February 22, 2010)  Is Islam going to be the one-world religion spoken of in End-Times prophecy? Is the Mahdi or Guided One (an Islamic messianic figure) the Antichrist? Is the Mark of the Beast a badge of submission to Allah? Is Jesus Christ returning to earth to wage war against the Islamic nations who treated the Jews harshly? Walid Shoebat thinks so.

Does this image contain the Mark of the Beast to be placed on the arms and heads of the Antichrist's followers?

Walid Shoebat declares that most prophecy students are incorrect in their interpretation of many End-Times prophecies. He believes that Western cultural influences have led to a misunderstanding of the Eastern culturally written Bible. He says that he is a former Muslim terrorist born in Bethlehem who converted to Christianity after reading the Bible in order to convince his Christian wife that her beliefs were in error. He also states that he lived in Jericho during the 1967 Six Day War. He wrote a unique and quite illuminating book on End-Times prophecy titled God’s War on Terror: Islam, Prophecy and the Bible. I have read this book and I believe it makes many compelling points. The following article is a synopsis of his book and quotes extensively from it. I would recommend any student of biblical prophecy read it for themselves. I will put the relevant page numbers from his book in parentheses throughout the article.
Also, when I quote directly from Mr. Shoebat’s book I will enclose the quote in black quotation marks using an italicized font. Inside the quotation marks all emphasis, spelling, brackets, parentheses, grammar, and punctuation will be reproduced exactly as it is printed in his book. I will not make any comments or notations inside of his quotation marks. The only exception to this is that quotations he uses from the Bible will be in red.

Eastern perspective on prophecy

Mr. Shoebat states that his upbringing in the Middle East and Israel in particular as a former Muslim gives him a different insight into understanding the Bible than his Western counterparts (p.23). He rejects the idea that Islam is a peaceful religion and believes that Western commentators are ignorant and politically correct on this subject. Islam creates Fatwas (legal rulings) against its critics, threatens global stability, infiltrates the West using its oil wealth, and attempts to change laws of non-Islamic countries. He points out that Islam persecutes Christians and Jews and is dominant in lands formerly part of every Biblical empire: Egyptian, Babylonian, Persian, Grecian, and much of the Roman Empire (p.26). He asked the following question to a gathering of prophecy authors, “Besides the argument of whether Magog is Russia or not, can you name any literal references in the Bible to a nation that God destroys in the end-times that is not Muslim?” He states that no one has given him a valid response to this question. It is because every biblical portrayal of Christ’s return shows Him fighting against a nation that is currently Muslim. How have Western analysts missed this? As he read the Bible he became increasingly aware of this fact and gave some examples such as God pouring out His wrath on Teman (Arabia), Cushan (Sudan), and Midian (Somalia) in Habakkuk ch. 3 and on Egypt with its idols in Isaiah ch. 19. Mr. Shoebat declares that when He read Isaiah 10:33-34 in 1993 he knew that Hezbollah would take over Lebanon. From his Muslim upbringing he knew that Allah would never come down to earth and that Allah hated the Jews. However, when he read the Bible he realized Jesus would return to earth and fight for His Jewish people and the Temple Mount: “so shall the LORD of hosts come down to fight for mount Zion, and for the hill thereof.” (Isaiah 31:4). Jesus will return to earth to judge nations specifically on how they treated the Jewish people, “I will enter into judgment with them there, on account of My people and My heritage Israel, because they have scattered them among the nations, and have divided up My land.” (Joel 3:2). This led him to the conclusion that this is what Hamas and the Palestinian Authority were doing in Israel today. As he read through the Bible Mr. Shoebat could see God’s plan unfolding through the religion of Islam while the West kept ignoring the dangers of Islam (p.29-32).

Mr. Shoebat critiques Islam

Before laying out his belief that God will war against Islam in the End-Times, he writes concerning Islam and Muslims in the first section of his book. He gives an example by quoting Joel 3:4, “Now what have you against me, O Tyre and Sidon [Lebanon] and all you regions of Philistia [Gaza]? Are you repaying me for something I have done? If you are paying Me back, I will swiftly and speedily return on your own heads what you have done.” He says it is as though “Jesus himself is speaking directly to Hezbollah and Hamas”. “Their fight against Israel is in reality a declaration of war on the King himself.” (p.32)

Mr. Shoebat says that as a Muslim he “wanted to destroy Christianity, America and every Jew”. However, it was through reading his enemies’ book, the Bible, which saved him. It was not “land concessions for peace, tolerance, interfaith dialogues, better jobs, secularism, or education”. He couldn’t understand why Jehovah defended Israel in the Bible or why everything “Allah loved, Jehovah hated, and whatever Jehovah loved, Allah hated.” What disturbed him most was that Israel always won. He makes the point that Muslims have an unhealthy fear of Allah because of the threats they read throughout the Qur’an and that even the terrorists are terrorized by the Qur’an! (p.37)

He states that Satan is intent on destroying Israel and thereby preventing Jesus’ Messianic Kingdom from occurring. He refers to Allah as “Satan in disguise” and that the Devil uses bits of prophecy for his own agenda. He gives an example from Revelation 16:9, And men were scorched with great heat, and they blasphemed the name of God who has power over these plagues; and they did not repent and give Him glory.” How could people experience this scorching heat and still blaspheme God? Most Western commentators think that it is because of mans’ stubbornness and rebelliousness. That is true but it is mainly that “these peoples will be clinging to the satanic Allah, thinking that he is God and begging him for mercy, when instead they should be begging Jehovah, the One True and only God.” Reasoning further, he says that Muslims continue to be defeated by the little nation of Israel yet they keep pleading even harder to Allah rather than praying to Jehovah and asking for forgiveness. He states that Islam is a “barrel of contradictions” and that many Muslims will deny the Holocaust while seeking a new holocaust against the Jews. (p.41-42)

Mr. Shoebat points out that Muslims are ignorant to the fact that their Jihad eschatology fulfills Biblical prophecy and that Christians too are ignorant because they don’t see Islam’s role in these same prophecies. Not only does he reject the Muslim belief that Jews and Christians corrupted the Bible but it is the Muslims themselves who have corrupted it. They took portions of the Bible and created their own Bible, the Qur’an, and claim it is the final Word of God. “Like their god, the accuser, the corruptors accuse the virtuous of corruption, the murderers accuse the innocent of murder, the haters accuse the righteous of hate, the warmongers accuse the peaceful of war, the lovers of death accuse those who love life of cowardice, while cowards who promote instant death are given the title of the brave. Murderers are martyrs, their funerals are weddings, and their victims are criminals unworthy of even a funeral. Their heaven is debauchery and their earth is a hell devoid of even the most innocent music or wedding dance. Everything is turned upside down. (p.44)

The Mahdi, Islamic writings, and the Muslim Jesus

In the next section of his book Mr. Shoebat compares biblical prophecies concerning the Antichrist with Islamic writings about the Mahdi who is to come and set up a Caliphate (a governing Islamic political entity). He begins by saying, “You can’t imagine how I felt when I read the Bible and found so much that describes the Mahdi who I had learned so much about growing up. The shock to me was that, while a character identical to my Mahdi was seen throughout the pages of the Bible, this character was not called “the Mahdi”, but rather “the Antichrist.” Were the prophets of the Bible Islamaphobes? After all, the Mahdi to us Sunni Muslims was “The rightly-guided and awaited One.” Shi’a Muslims refer to him as Sahib Al-Zaman “The Lord of the Age.” This is exactly what the Bible calls Satan: “The lord of the age” (II Corinthians 4:4).” Then laying a foundation for the comparisons he is about to make he explains Islamic writings: “Briefly, the Hadith or Sunna are the records of both the words and the deeds of the “prophet” Mohammed. In other words, the Qur’an is “thus says Allah” and the hadiths are “thus says Mohammed.” He then defines a Caliph as the “supreme political, military, and administrative leader of all Muslims worldwide.” He declares there is an effort in the Muslim world with the mandate to have both seats of the Mahdi and Caliph in one: “Mohammed said “There would be a caliph in the last period of my Ummah…He would be Imam Mahdi.” Lastly, Mr. Shoebat talks about the Muslim Jesus. He calls him the “second most important Muslim end-time character” who name is Isa-Almaseeh or the Muslim Jesus. He states that the Jesus of Islam is different from the historical and biblical Jesus. The Muslim Jesus is merely a prophet sent by Allah and is not a savior/redeemer. Nor will he restore the land of Israel to the Jews. He won’t save his followers from the ongoing persecution of the Antichrist. “In Islam, Jesus comes back as a radical Muslim to lead the Muslim armies, to abolish Christianity and to slaughter the Jews.” (p.52-54)

The Mahdi vs. the Antichrist

Mr. Shoebat makes forty-three comparisons between the Mahdi and the Antichrist. In this section of his book he uses the formulaic chapter headings “Both …” I will highlight a few of them:

Both Kingdoms Suffer a “Head Wound”
  • Revelation 13:2-3 says the beast suffers a head wound. Mr. Shoebat says the beast or the Antichrist’s empire ended with the Ottoman Empire’s demise and the end of the Caliphate on March 3, 1924. He likens the end of the Caliphate with the feeling Catholics would experience if the office of the pope was abolished. Today however, Muslims worldwide are calling for the reinstitution of the Caliphate. The Mahdi will answer their call. (p.81-82)
Both Work False Miracles
  • II Thessalonians 2:8-9 says the Antichrist will be in accord with Satan working false wonders and miracles. Mr. Shoebat says the Mahdi will also perform false miracles, “Islamic tradition even confirms this: “Allah will give him power over the wind and the rain, and the earth will bring forth its foliage. He will give away wealth profusely, flocks will be in abundance, and the Ummah [Empire of Islam] will be large and honored…” (p.83)
Both Ride A White Horse
  • In Revelation 19:11 Jesus rides a white horse at His second coming. Revelation 6:1-2 speaks of a different rider on a white horse who goes out to conquer and famines, plagues, death, persecution, martyrdom of God’s people, a great earthquake, and the wrath of God follow after him. Mr. Shoebat says that an early transcription of the prophet Mohammed’s Hadith confirms that the Imam Mahdi is the rider on the white horse in Revelation chapter 6. He quotes Egyptian authors who wrote, “It is clear that this man is the Mahdi who will ride the white horse and judge by the Qur’an (with justice) and with whom will be men with marks of prostration on their foreheads. Mr. Shoebat concludes, “Our Antichrist is their Messiah–Muslim scholars open the Bible, read about the Antichrist, and see their Savior. This must be quite ironic, if not entirely prophetic. Now you are beginning to see what I was faced with when I began to study the Bible, the True Word of the Almighty God. (p.84)
Both Attempt to Change The Law
  • Daniel 7:25 declares, “He [Antichrist] will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws.” Mr. Shoebat says the Antichrist will try to change the times or accepted world calendar and legal systems and constitutions. “He will attempt to invoke Islam’s evil laws worldwide to replace every other law and constitution.” He states that the Mahdi will institute Shari’a Law as much as he can. However, he says that like Nimrod’s unsuccessful attempt to set up a global government with the Tower of Babel, so too God will not allow the Antichrist/Mahdi to set up a one-world government. He believes that Western prophecy students misunderstand when it comes to the Antichrist setting up a global government. Only Jesus Christ will rule over the world when He sets up His kingdom in Jerusalem. As far as changing the calendar he points out that where Islam rules, the Islamic calendar based on Mohammed’s conquest of Medina in Saudi Arabia is in effect. According to him, Isa, the Muslim Jesus, will be in charge of overseeing the changing of the times and laws.
Both Practice Beheadings
  • Revelation 20:4 says, “And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God.” Mr. Shoebat relates the long history of Islamic beheadings beginning with Mohammed’s sanctioning of the decapitation of one of his enemies. He also tells of the hundreds of beheadings for crimes, alleged or true, that take place in modern Islamic countries. (p.162-165)
Both Occupy The Temple Mount
  • Matthew 24:15 says, “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand.” II Thessalonians 2:4 says, “He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.” Mr. Shoebat quotes from an Ayatollah’s book on the Imam Mahdi, “Armies carrying black flags will come from Khurasan. No power will be able to stop them and they will finally reach Eela (Baitul Maqdas in Jerusalem) where they will erect their flags.” He says Baitul Maqdas means the holy house and refers to the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. He asks could placing flags with the slogan “There is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his Messenger” in the Temple be the Abomination of Desolation? Or possibly that a Black Stone image be set on the Holy of Holies? He quotes other Islamic authors who state that the Mahdi will rule from Jerusalem in a rightly-guided caliphate. (p.174)
Both Enjoy Desecrating Bodies
  • Revelation 11 tells of God’s Two Witnesses who will preach in Jerusalem during the reign of the Antichrist. He will be unable to harm them until their ministry is finished. Revelation 11:7-12 declares,“7 Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. 8 Their bodies will lie in the street of the great city, which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified. 9 For three and a half days men from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. 10 The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth. 11 Now after the three-and-a-half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them. 12 And they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they ascended to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies saw them.” Mr. Shoebat gives examples such as the Somalian people dragging dead soldiers through the streets and charred bodies of Americans hung in Iraq. The purpose is to shame the dead and deter others from committing similar acts. He says it is also a “sick celebration of victory”. As far as the gift-giving in Revelation 11, He points out the celebrations that occurred after the September 11, 2001 attack in America. There was dancing in the streets in Arab countries and children were given candy in Palestine.

Jesus Christ will return to wage war against the Muslims

At the beginning of his book Walid Shoebat declares “In every portrayal of Christ’s return to the earth, He is fighting a nation that today is Muslim.” (p.30) In part three of the book he lays out the scriptural evidence for this assertion. He quotes Habbakuk 3:3-4 to illustrate that Jesus comes in person and is found returning from fighting in the land of Teman in Arabia: “3 God came from Teman, the Holy One from Mount Paran. His glory covered the heavens and his praise filled the earth. 4 His splendor was like the sunrise; rays flashed from his hand, where his power was hidden.” He then begins his presentation with a messianic prophecy: “17 I see him, but not now; I behold him, but not near. A star will come out of Jacob; a scepter will rise out of Israel. He will crush the foreheads of Moab, the skulls of all the sons of Sheth. 18 Edom will be conquered; Seir, his enemy, will be conquered, but Israel will grow strong. 19 A ruler will come out of Jacob and destroy the survivors of the city.” (Numbers 24:17-19) He notes that when Jesus returns He will take His scepter and destroy the countries listed here which today comprise the area from Yemen to Arabia. He then writes about the various Muslim countries that Jesus will inflict His vengeance on when He returns. (p.185-187)

Saudi Arabia and Yemen

Mr. Shoebat quotes what he calls “a most amazing prophecy, Isaiah 63:1-4, “1 Who is this coming from Edom, from Bozrah, with his garments stained crimson? Who is this, robed in splendor, striding forward in the greatness of his strength? “It is I, speaking in righteousness, mighty to save. 2 Why are your garments red, like those of one treading the winepress? I have trodden the winepress alone; from the nations no one was with me. I trampled them in my anger and trod them down in my wrath; their blood spattered my garments, and I stained all my clothing. 4 For the day of vengeance was in my heart, and the year of my redemption has come.” He relates Ezekiel 25:12-13 to this passage in Isaiah, “12 Thus says the Lord GOD; Because that Edom hath dealt against the house of Judah by taking vengeance, and hath greatly offended, and revenged himself upon them; 13 Therefore thus says the Lord GOD; I will also stretch out mine hand upon Edom, and will cut off man and beast from it; and I will make it desolate from Teman; and they of Dedan shall fall by the sword.” Teman is Yemen and Dedan is an ancient city in Saudi Arabia. Jesus will destroy the area from the Red Sea into central Arabia. (p.187-188)

Egypt and Lebanon

“See, Jehovah rides on a swift cloud and is coming to Egypt. The idols of Egypt tremble before him, and the hearts of the Egyptians melt within them.” (Isaiah 19:1) Isaiah 11:14-15 declares, “14 But they shall fly down upon the shoulder of the Philistines toward the west; Together they shall plunder the people of the East; They shall lay their hand on Edom and Moab; And the people of Ammon shall obey them. 15 The LORD will utterly destroy the tongue of the Sea of Egypt; With His mighty wind He will shake His fist over the River, And strike it in the seven streams.” Mr. Shoebat states that the Nile River empties into the Mediterranean Sea by seven streams. These passages indicate that Egypt will be largely destroyed. Isaiah 10:34 states, “Lebanon will fall by the Mighty One”. He says though some may say “The Mighty One” is God the Father in heaven and not the Messiah on earth, Isaiah 19:20 is clearly speaking of the Messiah, “He will send them a Savior and a Mighty One, and He will deliver them.” He declares this judgment against Lebanon is also a judgment against the Antichrist, “O My people, who dwell in Zion, do not be afraid of the Assyrian. He shall strike you with a rod and lift up his staff against you, in the manner of Egypt. 25 For yet a very little while and the indignation will cease, as will My anger in their destruction.” (Isaiah 10:24-25) The Antichrist will be responsible for the destruction of Lebanon, “For the violence done to Lebanon will cover you, And the plunder of beasts which made them afraid, Because of men’s blood And the violence of the land and the city, And of all who dwell in it.” (Habakkuk 2:17} Mr. Shoebat states that “God will punish Islam for what they have done in Lebanon with rape and pillage of Christians in that nation.” (p.188-189)

Why did the West miss this?

How come Western prophecy commentators did not see Islam’s primary role in the End-Times prophetic passages of the Bible? Mr. Shoebat believes it is because most discussion amongst prophecy students focuses on the Book of Revelation and the Book of Daniel. While important, he says that rather than starting with interpreting the visions and imagery of these two books, why not examine the rest of the Bible passages where End-Times prophecy is clear and straightforward. In the next part of his book he does just that.

The Battle for Jerusalem and the Rapture

“1 Blow the trumpet in Zion, And sound an alarm in My holy mountain! Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble; For the day of the LORD is coming, For it is at hand: 2 A day of darkness and gloominess, A day of clouds and thick darkness, Like the morning clouds spread over the mountains. A people come, great and strong, The like of whom has never been; Nor will there ever be any such after them, Even for many successive generations. 3 A fire devours before them, And behind them a flame burns; The land is like the Garden of Eden before them, And behind them a desolate wilderness; Surely nothing shall escape them.” (Joel 2:1-3) Who is this army that devours the land? Mr. Shoebat declares that it is the army of the followers of Jesus Christ who have been Raptured. Concerning the snatching away of the saints he states, “Whether the Rapture takes the believers before the seven years, then prepares them to come down for this battle later, or in the Middle; or we are caught up at the tail end to instantly participate in this, the timing is of no concern to Easterners; I predict that Westerners will wrestle with this issue and with each other until “The Kingdom comes.” To further his point he quotes Psalm 50:3, “A fire shall devour before Him, and it shall be very tempestuous all around Him”; Daniel 7:10, “A fiery stream issued and came before Him. A thousand thousands ministered to Him”; Isaiah 12:6, “Cry out and shout, O inhabitant of Zion, For great is the Holy One of Israel in your midst!”; and Isaiah 13:3-4, “I have also called My mighty ones for My anger–Those who rejoice in My exaltation. The LORD of hosts musters the army for battle.” He states the “mighty ones” must be the glorified bodies of the saints and they are His army. He quotes Joel 2:11, “The LORD gives voice before His army” and declares this verse covers the Rapture and the War: “Western Christians cannot get a grip over this issue–they will be fighting a war against an Islamic invasion–the battle for Jerusalem.” Concerning Jerusalem and Israel, “…there is a land already in the Tribulation.” He makes it clear that it is not yet the Great Tribulation though. Concerning the West’s squabbling over the timing of the Rapture, “When Muslim Fundamentalists take over a Christian society and begin to behead, they never ask what Rapture position any of their victims hold, neither do they ask their denomination. In the case of Islam we all need to unite.” (p.192-199)

Old Testament prophecies concerning Jesus’ future war against Islam

I am not going to list the various points Walid Shoebat makes in the next part of his book. He begins by illustrating that Isaiah ch. 9 and 14 along with Ezekiel ch. 28 allude to the Antichrist and his connection with Satan. He points out that chapters 13-30 in the Book of Isaiah reference the Muslim nations that God is going to judge. He states that chapters 28-32 in the Book of Ezekiel speak of the Islamic nations that will be cast into Hell. Lastly, he quotes the Psalms, ch. 2, 74, 75, 79-83, 87, and 120 that tell of Jesus Christ fighting against an alliance of these same nations of Islam. (p.226-249)

Rosh, Gog, Magog, Armageddon in Ezekiel 38-39

Western prophecy commentators believe that Rosh, Gog, and Magog in Ezekiel 38:1-9 refers to modern-day Russia. They also think that the alliance of nations that invade Israel in ch. 39 of Ezekiel refers to a battle which occurs before the battle of Armageddon mentioned in ch. 16 and 19 of the Book of Revelation. Mr. Shoebat disputes both of these interpretations. He says the word “Rosh” means head or chief and is etymologically unrelated to the modern word Russia. “So even if Rosh is interpreted as a proper noun, it could point to the Ukraine, Chechnya, or Georgia and possibly even Iran.” All of these countries today are Islamic nations. He quotes Ezekiel 38:2, “the land of Magog, chief prince (head or leader of) of Mesheck and Tubal” and declares that since Meshech and Tubal are regions of Turkey then Magog must also be related to Turkey. Thus Gog is a leader from the region of Turkey. “The error of the Russian theory arose from the Scofield Study Bible, which identifies Mesheck and Tubal with the modern cities of Moscow and Tobolsk. The only basis for this interpretation is the somewhat similar sound of the two words.” (p.250-266)

The battle of Gog in Ezekiel 38 is the same as the battle of Armageddon in the Book of Revelation. Mr. Shoebat says that the description of Israel as pure is the same description of Israel after the battle of Armageddon: “Then they will know that I am the LORD. Son of man, prophesy against Gog and say: This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal…I will make known My holy name among My people Israel. I will no longer let My holy name be profaned, and the nations will know that I the LORD am the Holy One in Israel.” (Ezekiel 38:23-39:1;39:7) Also after this war the Gentile nations will then know God: “And thou [Gog] shall come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.” (Ezekiel 38:16) He asks, “How could these be “heathen?” All these nations in Ezekiel 38 are Muslim nations. Why would the Bible call people who claim to believe in Abraham and Jesus as heathen? To me this is one dilemma I had when I read the text as a Muslim, I realized I must be on the wrong side. Worshipping Allah according to the Bible cannot be the same as worshipping Jehovah.” He also notes that Jesus Christ is present in both the battle of Gog and Armageddon: “And all the men that are upon the face of the earth shall shake at my presence” (Ezekiel 38:20) and “And the heathen shall know that I am Jehovah, the Holy One in Israel.” (Ezekiel 39:7) Here Jesus is in Israel while other passages refer to the Holy One of Israel. “The “in” is crucial. It’s like DNA evidence in a court of law. No serious Bible student can doubt the fact that this event is anything other than the Messiah fighting the Antichrist.” He also points out another parallel between Gog of Ezekiel and the Antichrist at Armageddon in Revelation: “Son of man, this is what the Sovereign LORD says: Call out to every kind of bird and all the wild animals: Assemble and come together from all around to the sacrifice I am preparing for you, the great sacrifice on the mountains of Israel. There you will eat flesh and drink blood. 18 You will eat the flesh of mighty men and drink the blood of the princes of the earth… At my table you will eat your fill of horses and riders, mighty men and soldiers of every kind, declares Jehovah the Sovereign.” (Ezekiel 39:17-20) “17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and mighty men, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, small and great.” (Revelation 19:17-18) He concludes this section by making other comparisons between the descriptions of the destructions and plagues which occur at both battles. (p.267-274)

Western Misconceptions

Mr. Shoebat discusses how the West has tried to insert Europe and the rest of the world into End-Times prophecy when there is no biblical basis for doing so.

Prophecy in Middle Eastern context

Every nation will not be utterly dominated by the Antichrist. Phrases such as “all the nations of the earth” in Zechariah 12:1-3 and “will gather all nations to Jerusalem to fight against it” in Zechariah 14 refer to the Islamic nations surrounding Israel. He states that “using hyperbole is extremely common in eastern culture.” There are many times the Bible uses all-inclusive phrases when it was impossible that they pertained to countries in the Pacific and elsewhere. Thus the battle of Armageddon will occur between Jesus and His army and the Muslim armies. Tarshish and Cush of Ezekiel 38 probably refer to Turkey and Sudan respectively, not Europe and modern Ethiopia. The kings of the east of Revelation 16 could refer to the former nations of Babylonia and Persia and not China. The wise men who came from the east are believed to have originated in these regions. Mr. Shoebat declares that Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and Indonesia could field a 200 million soldier army. He relates that reformer Martin Luther and Sir Isaac Newton concluded that Muslim warriors from the previous fourteen centuries were a fulfillment of this prophecy as they conquered formerly Christian nations. (p.282-287)

Unlocking prophecy symbolism
  • Mountains – Eastern symbolism has a different meaning than the ones the West ascribes to them. Mountains refer to kingdoms or governments such as the one describing Jesus’ future reign over the world: “And it shall come to pass in the Last-Days that the mountain of the LORD’s house shall be established in the top of the mountains.” (Isaiah 2:2-4) Many westerners are waiting for the Catholic Church to rise to world power because Rome sits on the seven hills (mountains) of prophecy. Mr. Shoebat quotes Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as using his eastern understanding when he declared in a speech, “Do not doubt, Allah will prevail, and Islam will conquer mountain tops of the entire world.” God speaks against the Babylonian Empire in Jeremiah 51:25, “Behold, I am against thee, O destroying mountain, saith the LORD, which destroyest all the earth: and I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and roll thee down from the rocks, and will make thee a burnt mountain.” Jesus refers to governments and kingdoms as opposed to literal mountains, “If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.” (Matthew 17:20)
  • Waters – Waters are mixed ethnic groups. Revelation 17:15 illustrates this, “The waters which thou saw, where the whore sits, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.” He quotes Isaiah 43:2, “When you pass through the waters, I will be with thee; and through the rivers, they shall not overflow thee: when thou walkest through the fire (war), you shalt not be burned; neither shall the flame kindle upon you.” Mr. Shoebat interprets this as saying when the Israelites pass through the waters or face the people against you, you will prevail.
  • A Head is a Kingdom – Revelation 17:9-10 states, “The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. 10 They are also seven kings.” Mr. Shoebat states, “A kingdom is obviously ruled by a king: “They are also seven kings.” One cannot have a kingdom without a king. “One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed,” (Revelation 13:3). One of the kingdoms is destroyed but come back to life. One cannot isolate the kingdom from the king. The death of the head is the ending of the kingdom.”
  • Woman is a spiritual entity with a literal kingdom and capital – “And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” (Revelation 12:17) “This is the kingdom of Israel with its capital, Jerusalem.” A harlot represents a false religion.
  • Beasts are Empires led by kings – Mr. Shoebat says that many consider the beast of Revelation to be a man but that scripture doesn’t necessarily refer to a single entity as a single being. The wife of Jesus Christ refers to the entire church. Just as the bride represents many nations so too the beast represents a nation or an empire. He says that every mention of a beast in Daniel ch.7 refers to an empire and horns to kings or rulers. Accordingly, a beast always represents a group of people who follow a false religion and a false ruler or horn. He states that when the beast and false prophet are taken it means that the empire and its leader are removed. Therefore, Muslims are waiting for the Mahdi to follow in the footsteps of his predecessor Mohammed and thus “we see the beast of Revelation 13:3 waiting and determined to follow the previous beast whose “deadly wound was healed.”
  • A Name is a Declaration of Faith – A Creed – Emanuel means God with us and Isaiah ch. 9 gives the attributes of the Messiah. “No one accepts the names of the true God except the ones who believe in his attributes–that Messiah is Almighty God and the God with us.” “Names in the east always regard the creed, attributes, descriptions and the titles of the person they signify. Therefore, the name of the beast in Revelation 13 puts in God’s place someone other than His Son. The harlot of Revelation has names or creeds of blasphemy on her forehead as do the followers of Antichrist. Muslims today have a creed of blasphemy on their foreheads and hands.
  • Fish are followers – Jesus refers to potential followers to be drawn out of the waters of nations.
  • A Stone or Rock is the Messiah – Daniel 2 refers to the stone or Messiah striking the feet made of iron and clay on the symbolic statue. Jesus is the Chief Cornerstone which the builders rejected.
  • Trees and Birds are fallen angels – “3 Behold, the Assyrian was a cedar in Lebanon with fair branches, and with a shadowing shroud, and of an high stature; and his top was among the thick boughs. 4 The waters made him great, the deep set him up on high with her rivers running round about his plants, and sent her little rivers unto all the trees of the field.” (Ezekiel 31:3-4) Mr. Shoebat declares that the Assyrian is Satan and that nations made him great and they streamed to worship him and be ambassadors for him.
  • Stars are angels – In Revelation 12 the dragon of Satan takes a third of the angels with him.
  • Dragon is Satan – “And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called “the Devil, and Satan, which deceives the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” (Revelation 12:9) “I am against thee, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lieth in the midst of his rivers.” (Ezekiel 29:3) These verses refer to Satan dwelling in the Antichrist. (p.288-295)

Unlocking Prophetic Allegories

Revelation 17

“9 This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. 10 They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for a little while. 11 The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.” (Revelation 17:9-11) Mr. Shoebat says that Westerners are misguided in ascribing the seven hills to the seven hills on which the city of Rome sits. This prophecy does not relate to the Vatican or Catholicism. The seven hills or literally mountains refer to seven empires. There will be an eighth empire over which the Antichrist will rule. There have been seven “Beast” empires so far; five before John wrote the Book of Revelation: Egyptian, Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, and Greek. The sixth was the Roman Empire during which John lived or as the angel said, “one is”. The seventh Empire will be fatally wounded and then resurrected under the reign of the Antichrist. If the seventh empire is the revived Roman Empire (meaning Euro-centric in Western interpretations) then that means that the sixth, seventh, and eighth empires are going to be Roman. Not only does that seem illogical but all the previous empires were Middle Eastern-centric and included Jerusalem in their domain. Also, each of the first five empires was defeated by the succeeding empire. Mr. Shoebat asks who took control from the Roman Empire. (p.299-308)

Jerusalem fell to Islam in 637 A.D. This was the beginning of the Islamic Empire which culminated with the Ottoman Empire and lasted thirteen centuries before its fall in 1924. Thus, the seventh empire was Islamic and according to Mr. Shoebat will be revived under the Mahdi/Antichrist and fulfill the prophetic eighth empire. He points out that the Turkish Ottoman Empire falls in line with Ezekiel’s prophecies that focus on the role of Turkey in the last days. (p.309-315)

Daniel 2 and 7

Mr. Shoebat continues the allegorical interpretations from the Book of Daniel which include Nebuchadnezzar’s dream statue, the “Empires” beasts, and the leaders/horns visions. I will not go into detail but he concludes that all these visions point to a Muslim Antichrist ruling over the fourth and final world empire, the Islamic Empire. He does agree with his Western counterparts that the Antichrist will make a peace treaty, rebuild the Jewish Temple and fight wars in and around is Israel during the end times. (p.319-346)

Daniel 9

“Know therefore and understand, That from the going forth of the command To restore and build Jerusalem Until Messiah the Prince, There shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; The street shall be built again, and the wall, Even in troublesome times. 26 And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined. 27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate.” (Daniel 9:25-27) This is one of the major prophetic passages that Westerners use to declare that the Antichrist will come out of a revived Roman Empire which would encompass Europe. This prophecy has two fulfillments. Jesus fulfilled the first sixty nine weeks of the prophecy with His first coming. The seventieth week is yet to occur although a type of it was fulfilled in 70 A.D. when the Roman General Titus and his armies destroyed the Jewish Temple after besieging Jerusalem. Since it was a Roman army Westerners believe that the Antichrist will lead a European alliance of armies in an invasion of Israel and enter into the Third Jewish Temple to declare himself God. Mr. Shoebat states that the prince in this prophecy cannot be the Roman General Titus since he did not confirm a peace covenant for seven years? Nor did he set up an abomination of desolation in the Temple. Therefore the title prince refers to the future Antichrist. He also points out that the makeup of the Roman army which destroyed Jerusalem consisted of primarily Middle Eastern soldiers: Arabians, Syrians and Turks. He quotes First Century historians who confirm that this army was drawn from the indigenous people of that region. Thus, a Muslim Antichrist will lead Muslim armies in the future invasion of Israel. (p.347-354)

Unlocking the Mark of the Beast

“16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.” (Revelation 13:16-18) From an Eastern perspective, Mr. Shoebat believes his theory on the mark of the beast is more plausible than Western ideas such as a microchip implant or some kind of UPC code tattoo.

The Name of the Beast

In the Bible names can refer to a person’s nature, character, and mission. Jesus is prophetically called Immanuel (which means God with us) or King of kings or Word of God yet His name was Jesus or Yeshua in Hebrew. Likewise, the name of the beast or Antichrist is not the literal name of a political figure. Rather, it is a creed or declaration of faith about the nature, character, or mission of the Antichrist. Revelation 13:1 states, “And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.” This verse declares that the name of the beast or Antichrist is “blasphemy”. Mr. Shoebat defines the biblical meaning of this term: “Blasphemy is an anti-Yahweh or anti-Christ word or deed–to claim the attributes of God, claim to be Messiah, deny the Holy Spirit, deny the trinity, the cross, or even denying God’s edicts and declarations–all are blasphemy. Satan blasphemed when he said, “I will be like the Most High,” (Is. 14:14). Satan has always desired to be like God.” Thus the name of the beast or Antichrist will contain a credal aspect to it that will be anti-Yahweh and anti-Christ and will exalt another one over God.

The Shahadatan is the Islamic creed which declares, “There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is The One sent by Allah [The Messenger of Allah].” This creed alone fulfills the blasphemy requirements by stating there is another God other than Jehovah and that Muhammad supercedes the place of Jesus the Messiah. Mr. Shoebat says, “the Mark, the Name, the Number, and the Image of the Beast–are indicators of allegiance and submission to Beast [sic].” “In the simplest of terms, the Mark of the Beast is essentially the emblem, the symbol, or the identifying mark of the coming Beast kingdom. By donning this mark, people will identify with the Kingdom of the Beast and the values and beliefs that this kingdom represents.” (p.363-366)

The Number of the Beast

“Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.” (Revelation 13:18) A common interpretation of the number 666 usually involves Gematria, “a mystical form of numerology that assigns a numerical value to each letter from any given name. After the sum total of all of the letters is added up, the final result is the number of that individual’s name.” One major problem with this method of interpretation is which alphabet does one use in determining the name of the Antichrist? The biblical Hebrew, the biblical Greek, Latin, English? Mr. Shoebat states that if there is a Gematria interpretation for the number 666 it must correlate with the Name of the Beast which is the anti-Yahweh and anti-Christ creed of blasphemy.

After examining the Codex Vaticanus Greek Text of Revelation, Mr. Shoebat says that he noticed the Greek letters Chi, Xi, Stigma, which formed the 666 of Revelation 13:18, resembled “the most common creed of Islam Bismillah (or Basmalah), written in Arabic. Bismillah literally means “In the Name of Allah,” and is followed by the symbol of crossed swords, which is used universally throughout the Muslim world to signify Islam.” He says that only the first two words Bismi (Name of) and llah (Allah) are necessary to constitute the Basmalah. The similarities between the two sets of letters/words led him to the conclusion that it was possible that John, to whom God revealed the visions of Revelation, saw the Arabic writing and recorded them with their Greek letter counterparts. This would fulfill the requirement that the number 666 also depict the Name of Blasphemy or as he pointed out, the Name of Allah. [Note: Others have stated that Codex Vaticanus does not contain an original copy of the Book of Revelation but that Mr. Shoebat may have looked at some other ancient manuscript] (p.367-374)

The Mark of the Beast

The Greek word charagma translated as mark in Revelation 13:16-18 means “a stamp, an imprinted mark”. Mr. Shoebat says that in John’s time charagma was reserved for slaves in what was called “a badge of servitude”. He states Muslims are called slaves of Allah and wear headbands and badges with Islamic mottos, creeds, words, and symbols written on them. These express their subservience and allegiance to Allah and his prophet Muhammad. He relates that when he read these passages in Revelation chapter 13 about a mark on the forehead and hand, he noticed they mirrored the Muslims custom of putting badges on their foreheads and arms. They do this in response to a Qur’anic verse, “And when the word is fulfilled concerning them, We shall bring forth a beast of the earth to speak unto them because mankind had not faith in Our revelations.” In the Bible the Beast is evil but in the Qur’an the Beast has a “holy mission to revive Islam and mark the foreheads of all true Muslim believers.” (p.375-379)

The Image of the Beast

“14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. 15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.” (Revelation 13:14-15) Some Westerners thinks this means that there will be an animated statue of the Antichrist. Mr. Shoebat gives some possible biblical definitions for the image of Revelation 13. Judaism had a Temple with many articles placed inside such as the Ark of the Covenant and the Menorah: “For the Israelites will live many days without king or prince, without sacrifice or sacred stones, without ephod or an image.” (Hosea 3:4) Islam too has a Temple for Allah (the Ka’ba) along with Temple articles (the Black Stone). Just as the Jewish Temple articles foreshadowed the coming of God’s Messiah so too Islam’s Temple foreshadows the coming of Satan’s Antichrist. The image could be a national emblem such as a flag of the revived Islamic Empire and caliphate. It could be an idol such as the statue of King Nebuchadnezzar or the meteorite that Paul said was located in the Temple of Artemis in Ephesus or the Black Stone Ka’ba in Mecca. Indeed, the image might be a likeness of the Antichrist.

Muslims believe and teach that when the Islamic Jesus returns he will abolish Christianity and Judaism. He will destroy all the cross symbols since Islam declares that he was never crucified. In reality, Jesus will return and destroy the images of Islam. Mr. Shoebat quotes Psalms 82 and 83, which he says speaks of a war between the Messiah and the Antichrist, and compares them with Judges 8:21,26: “Make their nobles like Oreb and Zeeb, all their princes like Zebah and Zalmunna.” (Psalm 83:11) “So Zebah and Zalmunna said, “Rise yourself, and kill us; for as a man is, so is his strength.” So Gideon arose and killed Zebah and Zalmunna, and took the crescent ornaments that were on their camels’ necks…Now the weight of the gold earrings that he requested was one thousand seven hundred shekels of gold, besides the crescent ornaments, pendants, and purple robes which were on the kings of Midian, and besides the chains that were around their camels’ necks.” (Judges 8:21,26) He states that just as David was a type of the King Messiah and Joseph a type of the Suffering Messiah, so too is Gideon a type of the Warrior Messiah who will abolish Islam and tear down the Islamic symbols from the high places (the minarets).

The Hebrew word saharon translated as ornaments in Judges 8:21 means crescent, moon and comes from the root word sahar which is the word used for the name of Satan in Isaiah 14: Hilal ben Sahar. The King James Bible translates Hilal as Lucifer and the full phrase means morning star/crescent moon. The crescent moon and star are Islamic symbols and according to Mr. Shoebat this means that “Islam and the name of Satan are one and the same.” The image of the crescent moon and star are prevalent throughout the Islamic world and may possibly reflect the image of the Antichrist/Mahdi. (p.380-387)

The Ka’ba (Kaaba) or The Black Stone

“Both Antichrist’s followers and Muslims bow to an image. The great idol of Islam, the Black-Stone and its veneration has been around from time immemorial.” “Everyone knows that Ephesus is the official guardian of the temple of the great Artemis, whose image fell down to us from heaven?” (Acts 19:35) Mr. Shoebat says that “the image of Artemis is similar to the meteorite stone image in Mecca which Allah commands 1.3 billion Muslims to literally bow down and prostrate themselves toward at least seventeen times during their five daily prayers.” He makes a connection between the meteorite that is located at the Kaaba and Lucifer’s image depicted in Revelation ch. 8 and 9: “And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.” (Revelation 9:1) “And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood…And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters.” (Revelation 8:8,10) The great star is Satan, the mountain is an empire, and the rivers and waters are the people of the earth. Satan, the fallen star, and the revival of the Islamic Empire will cause one-third of mankind to dies.

“The Black Stone of Mecca owes its reputation to the tradition that it fell from the “heavens”.” Mr. Shoebat declares that the Black Stone of Mecca is “clearly an “image” of Satan”. According to authenticated Islamic tradition Muhammad said the following concerning the animation of the image in Revelation 13:15, “Allah will raise up the stone [the Black Stone] on the Day of Judgment, and it will have two-eyes with which it will see and a tongue which it talks with, and it will give witness in favor of everyone who touched it in truth.” One Islamic author noted that many years ago the Black Stone was, “whiter than milk; it was only later that it became black as it absorbed the sins of those who touched it.” During the Hajj or pilgrimage to the Kaaba, Muslims circle the Black Stone in a counterclockwise movement and are thereby cleansed of their sins. Mr. Shoebat says there is a prophecy that is rarely understood by Western analysts yet alludes to the Islamic Hajj: “3 Behold, the Assyrian (the Antichrist, Satan in the flesh) was a cedar in Lebanon with fair branches, and with a shadowing shroud, and of an high stature; and his top was among the thick boughs. 4 The waters made him great, the deep set him up on high with her rivers running round about his plants, and sent her little rivers unto all the trees of the field.” (Ezekiel 31:3-4) He says that applying the key of interpreting symbols leads to the following interpretation: “Behold, Satan, a beautiful angel clothed in beautiful covering, an angel with high status. Peoples and multitudes from every nation made him great, and the underworld set him up high with the multitudes running round about his idol and sent out all the people to all the idols that were set for him.” He points out that the phrase “shadowing shroud” in this verse could refer to the black cloth (the Kiswa) which covers the Kaaba. He quotes Jeremiah 51:44, “And I will punish Bel in Babylon, and I will bring forth out of his mouth that which he has swallowed up: and the nations shall not flow together any more unto him: yea, the wall of Babylon shall fall.” No longer will the nations stream to honor Satan and walk around his idol. (p.388-392)

Mystery Babylon, the Mother of Harlots

The next to last section deals with the Harlot or Prostitute John saw and wrote about in Revelation ch. 17:1-6: “1 One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who sits on many waters. 2 With her the kings of the earth committed adultery and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries.” 3 Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a desert. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. 5This title was written on her forehead: MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6 I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus.” Western prophecy commentators use to focus on Rome and the Catholicism as the fulfillment of the prophetic Harlot. Looking from an Eastern perspective the Harlot is associated with Arabia and Islam.

The Harlot’s connection to Arabia

Isaiah 21:9 states, “And, behold, here cometh a chariot of men, with a couple of horsemen. And he answered and said, Babylon is fallen, is fallen; and all the graven images of her gods he hath broken unto the ground.” This verse is related to Revelation 18:2: “And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.” Mr. Shoebat says that passages which are connected to Mystery Babylon in Isaiah 21, Jeremiah, and the Psalms speak of regions and cities in modern Arabia which was part of the Babylonian Empire. He further surmises that Isaiah 21:16 mentions the “glory of Kedar” which could be a reference to Mecca. Also the phrase “desert of the sea” refers to Arabia which is surrounded by the Red Sea, Indian Ocean, and the Persian-Arab Sea. Thus Mystery Babylon is speaking of the region of Saudi Arabia. (p.395-399)

The Harlot’s connection to a desert

“Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a desert. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns.” (Revelation 17:3) Mr. Shoebat makes a connection between the Harlot in the desert and the subject of Jesus’ statement in Matthew 24:26, “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the desert,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.” He says that the Beast is the governmental aspect of the Antichrist’s empire while the Harlot is the spiritual aspect of it. Some Westerners suggest that Mystery Babylon could be New York, Rome, or America yet none of these sit in a desert. Conversely, Saudi Arabia fits this prophetic scenario perfectly. (p.400)

The Harlot’s connection to Oil

“1 One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who sits on many waters. 2 With her the kings of the earth committed adultery and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries.” (Revelation 17:1-20) Mr. Shoebat states, “There are two very important descriptions of the Harlot that stand out: First, she exists geographically in a desert region. And secondly, we see that the “kings of the earth” figuratively commit adultery with her in order to obtain her “wine” in exchange for betraying God’s people. What desert “wine” intoxicates the earth, and causes this desert region to grow rich? What false religion teaches that the blood of Christians and Jews should be shed? What desert nation today is the geographical womb from which this false harlot religion was birthed?” The answers, according to Mr. Shoebat, are oil, Islam, and Saudi Arabia.

He quotes Joel 3:1-3 which mentions the wine and harlot: “1 For behold, in those days and at that time, When I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, 2 I will gather all the nations and bring them down to the valley of Jehoshaphat Then I will enter into judgment with them there on behalf of My people and My inheritance, Israel, Whom they have scattered among the nations; And they have divided up My land. 3 They have also cast lots for My people, traded a boy for a harlot and sold a girl for wine that they may drink.” He declares that most Christians don’t know the main reason Jesus comes to judge the nations is because they “divided up My land” and their treatment of “My People” the Jews. You can see that modern-day politics have resulted in the carving up of the land of Israel in order to create an Arab Palestinian state. Nations will sell out (they “traded a boy for a harlot and sold a girl for wine that they may drink”) Israel “in order to coddle the Harlot and obtain her wine.” He states that the Harlot will use both Islam and oil as her “wine” through which she “seduces the nations of the world into committing spiritual adultery with her and compromising Israel.” (p.401-408)

The Harlot’s connection to a false religion

Mr. Shoebat writes, “The Beast is a coalition of ten kings representing the seven kingdoms in the past, under the authority of the Antichrist. The Harlot is a distinct and separate geographically definable entity that represents the primary religious source of the Antichrist’s religion. The Harlot is sitting atop the Beast.” He restates his belief that the Beast is the revived Islamic Empire and mentions the similarities of the scarlet coverings of both entities and that just as the Beast Empire will behead God’s people so too the Harlot is drunk on the blood of the saints. Furthermore, the phrase “Mother of all Prostitutes and Abominations” is an Eastern way of expressing a superlative such as the biggest, the worst, unmatched, and most significant. In this context he says the purpose of this phrase is “to portray the Great Harlot as the greatest manifestation of spiritual infidelity against the God of the Bible that has ever existed throughout the history of the world.” The mystery of the Harlot’s false religion is that unlike any other pagan religion “it sprouts from a mixture of a heretical Christian cult and a pagan Moon-god religion that has attempted to cloak itself with certain Jewish and Christian elements in order to appear as a Biblical faith and the rightful successor of the Judeo-Christian tradition.” Paul’s letter to the Galatians illustrates this when he writes concerning two covenants: “22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. 24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Hagar. 25 For this Hagar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. 26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. 27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband. 28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. 29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. 30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. 31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.” (Galatians 4:22-31) Some consider Hagar’s son Ishmael the father of Arabs. From him came a religion of bondage (Islam means “submission”) out of “Mount Sinai in Arabia”.

The Prostitute is adorned with costly, royal robes and jewelry. The scarlet color is the “red” sinfulness of her corrupt and murderous religion. Mr. Shoebat asks, “What Islamic desert nation is governed by a Royal Monarchy that is known throughout the earth as being fabulously wealthy and utterly corrupt? What place is decked with gold, silver, and precious stones?” Saudi Arabia.

The Harlot is described as a great city that rules over the kings of the earth. This means that she is a politically and geographically entity. This great city is in contrast to the Holy City of Jerusalem where Jesus will reign from. Islam started out with its adherents praying while facing Jerusalem. Now when they pray, Muslims face Mecca where the Kaaba is located. (p.409-412)

Turkey

In the last section of his book Mr. Shoebat makes the case for the nation of Turkey playing a prominent role in the revived Islamic Empire and the rise of the Antichrist.

Seven Scriptural proofs that Turkey is the Antichrist Nation
  1. Ezekiel ch.38 lists eight locations in the Gog prophecy. Five of them (Magog, Meshech, Tubal, Togarmah, Gomer) are located in Turkey.
  2. The first Islamic Empire (which culminated with the Turkish Ottoman Empire whose capital was Istanbul, Turkey) is the fatally wounded seventh Biblical Beast Empire of Revelation ch.17.
  3. Daniel ch.9 declares the people of the prince will invade Jerusalem. The first part of this prophecy was fulfilled when the Roman army led by the Tenth Legion destroyed the second Jewish Temple in 70 A.D. This legion consisted of primarily Turkish and Syrian soldiers.
  4. Daniel ch.11 prophesies of a “king of the north” as a type of the Antichrist. Antiochus Epiphanes IV ruled the Seleucid Empire which encompassed Turkey. He blasphemously sacrificed a pig on the Jewish Temple altar and was a forerunner of the Antichrist.
  5. Isaiah and Micah prophesied of The Assyrian who is the Antichrist. Assyria’s domain included a large part of Turkey.
  6. Zechariah ch.9 lists Yavan/Ionia (Turkey) as playing a role in the Last Days. They are translated with the word “Greece” in this passage but are actually located on the Western coast of Turkey.
  7. Revelation ch.2 mentions that the throne of Satan is located in Pergamum, Turkey. (p.421-425)
The Antichrist nation must be a mediator

Daniel ch. 9 indicates that the Antichrist will confirm a covenant or peace treaty. Since it also indicates a Jewish Temple will be built in the Last Days it appears that the Antichrist will have political influence in Israel and with the Arabs that may result in some kind of treaty.

Turkey fulfills the mediator role. It is geographically situated between the East and the West. It is culturally situated between Europe and the Middle East. It is politically situated between Israel and the Muslim world. It is politically situated between moderate Islam and radical Islam. Turkey has been an ally of Israel and the United States and has reached out to Iran, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan and other countries in the region. Turkey has mediated and offered to mediate various issues between Muslims countries and involved itself in the Hamas/Israel and Hezbollah/Israel conflicts. The Israeli Prime Minister allowed the Turkish Prime Minister to inspect Israeli construction at the Temple Mount. Israel’s President and the Palestinian President along with leaders from other Middle Eastern countries have spoken before Turkey’s parliament. (p.429-435)

Turkey’s Military Might

Western commentators believe the Antichrist must come from a European nation/alliance because he has a powerful military supporting him. Amongst NATO countries Turkey has the second largest army behind the United States. It is strategically located to control the Suez Canal and other vital areas of the Middle East. (p.436)

Turkey the Hater

Mr. Shoebat states that Anti-Semitic and Anti-Christian attitudes are on the rise in Turkey. Beginning in 1915 Turkey embarked on a genocidal campaign which resulted in the deaths of more than 1.5 million Armenian Christians. Recently, Turkey has increasingly distanced itself from America who considered Turkey a moderate nation. One point of contention has been over the Iraq War. The arrest of eleven Turkish soldiers in Iraq by American troops further alienated the Turkish population. A very popular 2006 movie concerning this incident further revealed the growing Anti-Semitic and Anti-Christian attitude amongst the Turkish people. Mr. Shoebat points out that sales of Adolph Hitler’s Mein Kampf have soared in Turkey. (p.437-439)

Turkey falls to the Islamists

Turkey had been the longest standing secular government in the Muslim world. The recent 2007 elections saw the Islamic party AKP take control of Turkey’s government. Mr. Shoebat quoted the outgoing President of Turkey after the election, “Turkey’s political regime is under unprecedented threat…Political Islam is being imposed on Turkey as a model.” Although current Prime Minister Erdogan has stated he is “pro-democracy, pro-European Union, pro-America, pro-Israel, pro-peace, and pro-Global-unity,” He quotes him saying the following, “Democracy is like a streetcar. You ride it until you arrive at your destination and then you get off.” (p.440-442)

Turkey in Islamic prophecy

Mr. Shoebat tells of an Islamic prophecy which says there will be a Great War with the Turkish city Constantinople/Istanbul playing a prominent role: “The flourishing state of Jerusalem will be when Yathrib (Medina) is in ruins, the ruined state of Yathrib will be when the Great War comes, and the outbreak of the Great War will be the conquest of Constantinople and the conquest of Constantinople when the Dajjal (Antichrist) comes forth. He (the Prophet) struck his thigh or his shoulder with his hand and said: This is as true as you are here or as you are sitting.” He writes, “When searching for the Antichrist, one must never look to the Ahmadinejads or Usamas of the world, but instead to someone with a moderate mask–at least in the beginning. His sinister, rabid hatred for Jews and Christians will not be revealed until he lures the sheep into his den.” (p.443-444)

The Reality – The Muslim cry for the Mahdi and the Caliphate

President Ahmadinejad of Iran opened his 2005 United Nations address with a prayer: “From the beginning of time, humanity has longed for the day when justice, peace, equality, and compassion, envelop the world. All of us can contribute to the establishment of such a world. When that day comes, the ultimate promise of all Divine religions will be fulfilled with the emergence of a perfect human being who is heir to all prophets and pious men. He will lead the world to justice and absolute peace. O mighty Lord, I pray to you to hasten the emergence of your last repository, the promised one, that perfect and pure human being, the one that will fill this world with justice and peace.” President Ahmadinejad is not the only one calling for the return of Al-Mahdi. According to Mr. Shoebat, the Iranian Hojjatieh Society (considered a lunatic fringe by mainstream Shi’a Muslims) believes they can hasten the return of the Twelfth Imam (The Mahdi) by creating a period of chaos on earth. He says they are so extreme that the Ayatollah Khomeini banned them in 1983. He quotes Israeli Prime Minister Benyamin Netanyahu as saying the cult of Mahdi in Iran is why it will be very dangerous if Iran acquires nuclear weapons. The cult of Mahdi is not limited to Iran alone as Mr. Shoebat states there are several Mahdi sects in Iraq. He believes that many Muslims will rise up as claimants to the position of Mahdi in fulfillment of Jesus’ last days warning, “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many…23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time. 26 So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the desert,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.” (Matthew 24:4-5,23-26)

There is also a call in the Muslim World for the reinstitution of the governing entity called the Caliphate. The worldwide community of Muslim believers is called the Ummah. Their sense of loyalty to Muhammad is above their familial ties as evidenced by their willingness to kill family members who leave Islam. Islam’s sacred traditions cause Muslims to believe that in the future Islam will rule the world. Muslims long for the former glory of the Islamic Empire that was a superpower for thirteen hundred years. All this came to an end in 1924 when Turkey’s first President, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, abolished the Caliphate. The West became prosperous and technologically advanced while the Muslim world regressed into poverty and dictatorships. Muslims blame the West and Israel for their current predicament and want to restore the Caliphate and punish the Western Nations. Thousands of Muslims have had various gatherings around the world to call for a new Caliphate. In 2006 an Islamic leader of the Guiding Helper Foundation in Israel called for the restoration of the Caliphate to a gathering of the Muslim faithful on the Temple Mount. One Islamic group in particular, Hizb-ut-Tahrir, is growing in influence with many of the other pro-Caliphate groups throughout the world. A University of Maryland poll of more than four thousand Muslims from various Islamic countries revealed that 65.2% of them want the Caliphate restored and a similar number want Shari’a Law to be imposed in every Muslim country. Mr. Shoebat says this illustrates that the majority of Muslims are not moderate and are a threat to the West. He says concerning the West’s naïveté about Islam, “It is time to get real.” He also quotes a 2004 U.S. National Intelligence Council report that states a global Caliphate is a real possibility by 2020. With events in the Middle East changing yearly it could occur sooner than that. (p.445-453)

Gog and Magog coalition forming

Although other Muslim nations will be part of the prophesied Gog and Magog war of Ezekiel ch.38, five will play a prominent role in the coalition of countries that will invade Israel: Iran, Syria, Libya, Sudan, and Turkey. The Muslim world is divided into two camps. These camps are led by the Sunni Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Shi’a Iran although there are some Sunni nations that follow Iran. This division is defined by those Muslim nations that are considered friendly to the West and its ally Israel and those opposed to the West.

In 2007 an Arab summit took place in Saudi Arabia. Because Iran and Syria were not invited to this meeting Libya boycotted it by refusing to attend. Mr. Shoebat says that a military alliance has been formed between Syria and Iran along with an exchange of military information. Western and Israeli Intelligence declared that Syria and Shi’a Iran influenced the election of the Sunni Hamas terrorist organization in the Gaza Strip. In 2007, Iran’s President Ahmadinejad visited Sudan and strengthened ties between the two countries while at the same time blaming the West for the troubles in the area. These events along with the Islamization of Turkey indicate that the alliance of Muslim nations listed in the Gog War of Ezekiel ch.38 may lead to the invasion of Israel in the not too distant future. (p.454-460)

Islam’s Explosive Growth

According to Mr. Shoebat, Islam’s growth rate is four times that of Christianity. Adherents to the Muslim faith constitute one-fifth of the world’s population. One main reason for the explosion of the Muslim population is that their birth rates far exceed those of the Western World. It is estimated by some that in less than twenty years one-third of Europe will be Muslim. Mr. Shoebat declares that “well within this century–the Western world as we know it will cease to exist. For this reason and more, I say that Islam is the future, albeit only temporarily so.” There have been reports that converts to Islam have increased around the world, including America, since the 9/11 attacks. Mr. Shoebat says this could be part of the “great apostasy” that the Bible says will take place before Jesus’ return. He also recognizes that millions of Muslims are converting to Christianity around the world, some as a result of a spiritual vision or dream. However, because of the Muslim birth rates Islam is spreading faster than Christianity. (p.461-467)

Walid Shoebat concludes his book with a note of urgency, “The time is shorter than most think. Let us all hasten; therefore, to do the work of God.”


Walid Shoebat like any prophecy commentator has his critics. One criticism all students of prophecy receive is that they take Bible verses out of context. Other criticisms concern his personal testimony. If nothing else I believe Mr. Shoebat has presented a very plausible framework for the interpretation of End-Times prophecy. As stated above, Islam is called the fastest growing religion in the world, claiming one-fifth of the earth’s population as adherents to the Muslim faith. Earlier in his book Mr. Shoebat made a declarative statement that he agreed with Western prophecy students on End-Times teachings concerning the “Rapture, Tribulation, Millennium, recreation of Israel, 144,000 witnessing Jews in Israel, the Falling Away, the coming of the Antichrist, the coming two witnesses, their death on the streets of Jerusalem, and so much more. In fact, western interpreters agree that Islam is involved. The question I am presenting, though, is: “Does Islam play the main roll [sic]? Or a major roll [sic]? At least we all agree on the latter.” (p.353) After reading his book it would seem that the answer to Walid Shoebat’s question is the former. Islam will be prominent in the fulfillment of End-Times prophecy. Again, I would recommend that any student of Bible prophecy purchase Mr. Shoebat’s book and read for themselves the plausible alternatives to some of the prophecy teachings that have been around for quite a while. I don’t believe he is putting forth any radical or unbiblical theories of End-Times prophecy. He is trying to illustrate that Islam has a main role in the fulfillment of End-Times prophecy and he may very well be correct in that assertion.

 

Pastor Rich Nathan of Vineyard vs Christian Zionism

Monday, January 25th, 2010

(January 25, 2010) While surfing the web I came across an email that Pastor Rich Nathan of the Vineyard Columbus church sent to his congregation in 2006. It concerned the Middle East peace process and the Arab-Israeli conflict. I have visited Pastor Nathan’s church a few times and was impressed by the work that he and his congregation are doing to help those in need and their desire to further the kingdom of God. However, the one area of disagreement I have with Pastor Nathan is in the realm of biblical prophecy and the nation of Israel. The email he sent to his congregation highlights some of the areas of this disagreement. Therefore I will respond to the various points discussed in this email, some of which I agree with and others I don’t. I will post the entire email below with my responses interspersed in blue font.

Congregational Email – October 2006
By Rich Nathan

Can There Be Peace In The Middle East?

Recent events in the Middle East have led many to wonder whether there can be any framework for peace between Jews and Arabs in the Middle East. The Iranian President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has repeatedly made controversial statements questioning the Holocaust, and criticized European laws against Holocaust denial. According to numerous media reports, he stated that “they have invented a myth that Jews were massacred.”

In July, Hezbollah para-military forces fired rockets and mortars into Israel resulting in the death of eight Israeli soldiers. Another Hezbollah unit crossed the border and seized two Israeli soldiers. Israel responded with massive air strikes killing over a thousand people, mostly Lebanese civilians, and displacing nearly one million Lebanese citizens. At the end of July, Israeli air strikes hit an apartment building in Qana. Human Rights Watch later confirmed that at least 28 died, of which 16 were children, with 13 more still missing.

The conflict between the Israelis and Palestinians continues unabated. The Palestinians interpreted Ariel Sharon’s visit to the Dome of the Rock on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem (accompanied by a thousand police officers) as an act of extreme provocation. It became the event which sparked the second Intifada in which Palestinians took this to the streets in protest. These protests became more and more violent in the ensuing months with a series of suicide bombings.

Both Jews and Arabs can cite a laundry list of injustices suffered at the hands of the other side. Both have become so vividly identified with their own sufferings that they have become blinded to the very real pain suffered by the other. Indeed, it has become a litmus test of allegiance to one’s own side to minimize, ignore, or distort the other side’s pain and to deny the other side’s right to exist as a nation.

Can Christians inside and outside of the Middle East play a role in bringing peace? We who follow the Prince of Peace must first publicly repent of our own complicity in the terrible tragedy that has befallen Jews and Muslims. Before the Christian church will have any credibility in speaking a word of reconciliation, the church must take the massive log out of our own eye. Only then will we see clearly enough to take the splinter out of the eyes of our Jewish and Muslim brothers and sisters.

Where shall we begin? Each church must examine its own history and ask forgiveness from Jews and Muslims for the crimes perpetuated against these two great peoples. Regarding the Jews, the Eastern Orthodox Church might declare a day of mourning and repentance for the numerous anti-Semitic statements by the fourth century patriarch John Chrysostom, who among other things, said this about the Jews: The Jews are the most worthless of all men – they are lecherous, greedy, rapacious – they worship the devil, their religion is a sickness…the Jews are the odious assassins of Christ and for killing God there is no expiation possible, no indulgence or pardon. Christians may never cease vengeance and the Jews must live in servitude forever. God always hated the Jews and whoever has intercourse with the Jews will be rejected on Judgment Day. It is incumbent upon all Christians to hate the Jews.

Lutherans could join in that day of mourning and repentance for statements made by Martin Luther in which he said: [We must] set their synagogues on fire, and whatever does not burn up should be covered or spread over with dirt so that no one may ever be able to see a cinder or stone of it…in order that God may see that we are Christians…their homes should likewise be broken down and destroyed…they should be deprived of their prayer books and Talmuds…their rabbis must be forbidden to teach under the threat of death.

And Roman Catholics could certainly join in mourning and repentance for their long history of anti-Semitism. Consider this statement by Thomas Aquinas: It would be perfectly licit to hold the Jews, because of their crucifying the Lord, in perpetual servitude.

Of course, since the Holocaust, Jews have ceased to take the moral credibility of the church seriously. 90% of Germans before the war and in all probability, an even larger proportion of Poles, attended church weekly. Yet it is a tragic fact of history that many of these churchgoers participated in the extermination of European Jewry and very, very few raised a voice of protest or actually engaged in the rescue and protection of Jews.

And it would be fitting regarding this day of Christian repentance and mourning to confess and grieve over the church’s treatment of Muslims for the past thousand years. Where shall we begin in our repentance regarding Muslims?

The Crusades wouldn’t be a bad starting point. When Christian knights from Western Europe recaptured Jerusalem from the Muslims, they massacred the entire population of the city, both Muslims and Jews. Muslims were burned alive in mosques during the retaking of the Holy Land.

I agree that Christians should ask for forgiveness for the sins committed in the name of Jesus Christ throughout history against other peoples and races. If we are sincere then some may come to understand the love of Christ. I also respect Pastor Nathan’s heart in this matter.

More recently, the world stood by silently as tens of thousands of Muslims were slaughtered by Orthodox and Roman Catholic Christians in the former Yugoslavia. Following 9/11, Evangelical and Pentecostal Christians showed remarkable insensitivity to Muslim sensibilities, almost going out of their way to offend and provoke Muslims. Thus, Franklin Graham said: “I believe Islam is a very evil and wicked religion.” Benny Hinn said, concerning the Palestinian/Israeli conflict: “We are on God’s side. This is not a war between Arabs and Jews. It is a war between God and the devil. Jerry Falwell called the prophet of Islam, Muhammad, a “terrorist” on CBS’s 60 Minutes. Pat Robertson said that Islam is “a monumental scam,” and claimed the prophet Muhammad was “an absolutely wild-eyed fanatic…a robber and brigand…a killer.” And, of course, Christian Zionists refuse to acknowledge that Palestinians have any legitimate claim to any part of the Holy Land thus eliminating their role as impartial mediators of the Palestinian/Israeli conflict.

The issue concerning the nature of other religions is a little more complex. Jesus Christ said that He was the only way to salvation (John 14:6). Thus, if a religion keeps people from obtaining salvation, who benefits from that? Certainly not the adherents of these non-Christian religions. Conversely, getting in people’s faces as some of these quotes do is not helpful in furthering the kingdom of God. Showing them the better way of the love of Christ towards them and helping them understand the love of a personal God through the sacrifice of His Son will bear good fruit.

Following repentance, we Christians must reject a false interpretation of the ancient promises made by God to Abraham. It is simply not the case that the promises made to Abraham implies the biblical right of Jews to control the entirety of the Holy Land in the 21st century. God’s gift of the land to Abraham, according to the Old and New Testaments, was made with a view of God revealing himself eventually to the whole human race. The gift of the land was not an end in itself, but a means of God extending his love to the ends of the earth (for more on this huge issue, see Whose Promised Land? The Continuing Crisis Over Israel and Palestine by Colin Chapman). It is entirely biblical to promote a two-sided partition of the Holy Land, with Jews and Muslims living side-by-side in peace.

Here I disagree with not only the premise of Pastor Nathan’s position but also with the tenor of it. He declares that Christians must reject a false interpretation of the ancient promises…in the 21st century. It comes across to me that he is saying prophecies written 2500 years ago have little validity in our modern age. I have heard unbelievers similarly say the Bible is antiquated and no longer relevant. Biblical prophecy was relevant leading up to the first coming of Jesus and is just as relevant leading up to His second coming. If I misunderstood his tone then why did he use the adjective “ancient” in conjunction with the word “prophecies” and then follow it up with a reference to the “21st century”? As far as the false interpretations, God’s word could not be more clear when it comes to the land of Israel. He declares that He gave the land to the Jews for an everlasting covenant at the beginning of Jewish history with His chosen ones Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and their Jewish descendants. He said in the Torah that if the Jews obeyed Him they would remain in the land of Israel. If they disobeyed Him He would remove them from the land. He declares that His eyes are always on the land of Israel and that He has chosen it for His habitation. In the Prophets God states that in the future He will bring the Jews back to the land and they will never be plucked out of it again. The prophet Daniel says that God sets up and brings down rulers and nations. How then did the Jews regain the land of Israel without God’s approval since He is the one who decides when they are removed from the land or when they return to it? I’m not sure why Pastor Nathan is unclear on what the Bible says concerning this issue. The heart of a Christian should never trump the truth of God’s word no matter how good their intentions may be.

We Christians must renounce the unwise view that more weapons and a greater military buildup in the Middle East will somehow bring peace to that region. We Christians must humbly invite Jews and Muslims to acknowledge the suffering and the pain each has caused the other. We must further encourage the view that the land belongs to God and not to the Jews or to the Muslims.

I agree that weapons will not bring peace to the Middle East. Pastor Nathan rightly states that the land of Israel belongs to God. And God declares in His word that He gave it to the Jews for an everlasting covenant.

One of the most helpful perspectives on this conflict was offered by Naim Ateek, a Palestinian Christian priest. Father Ateek said this:

The Palestinians need to become conscious of and sensitive to the horror of the Holocaust, Nazi Germany’s attempt to exterminate the Jews. Granted the Holocaust was not a Middle Eastern phenomenon, and the Palestinians had nothing to do with it; nevertheless, we need to understand the extent of the trauma for the Jews…we as Palestinians have refused to accept, much less to internalize, the horrible tragedy of the Holocaust. We have resisted even acknowledging it, believing that we have been subjected to our own Holocaust at the hands of the Jews. As we adopt a new attitude vis-a-vis the Holocaust…we may candidly acknowledge that the only justification that the Palestinians will accept for the creation of a Jewish State in Palestine is the Holocaust. It was the Holocaust and only the Holocaust that necessitated a home for the Jews. The Palestinians have to come to accept giving the Jews the best part of Palestine (Western Palestine), not because they had any right to it, not because of the Balfour Declaration, and not even because of anti-Semitism, but because of the Holocaust.

However, Palestinian Christians should be open to the fact that God’s word declares the land belongs to the Jews. To not do so is to deny the truth of the Scriptures that proclaim their Savior.

Father Ateek went on to address the Jews saying:

Jews in Israel must approach the Palestinians saying: “We are sorry that we came to you with arrogance and a feeling of superiority. We came with good and not so good reasons. But we are now here in the land. Forgive us for the wrong and the injustice that we have caused you. We took part of your country. We ignored you. We pretended that you did not exist, or even worse, that you did not matter. We stereotyped you, convincing others that you are all terrorists. We have refused to recognize that you have any rights, while we have insisted that you should recognize and legitimate our right to your land. We have insisted and convinced the United States and others to insist that you recognize our claim to your land. We have wronged you. Your own country of Palestine used to be our country 2000 years ago. We still have many cherished historic memories that keep pulling us to it. It is ‘our Holy Land’ too, our ‘Promised Land’ also. But there is room for both of us here, both Jews and Arabs.”

God commanded the Jews to take the land of Canaan from the people who had lived there for hundreds of years. Was God wrong for doing this? If you are a Christian you would have to answer no He was not wrong. As stated above God decides when the Jews live in the land. Is it possible that it is God’s will for the land to return to the Jews? If it is then is He wrong for doing it again at the expense of others? Having said that though Jews should not be mistreating Arabs and Arabs should not be mistreating Jews.

Is there any hope for peace in the Middle East? I believe there is. But the conditions for peace have plainly been laid out by the Prince of Peace, Jesus the Messiah. There can be no peace until individuals, religions and nations are willing to acknowledge not only their own pain and their own injustices suffered, but the pain and injustice suffered by their enemies, as well as the pain and suffering perpetuated at our own hands. A willingness to acknowledge the pain of the other is the first step towards creating a just and lasting peace.

I too believe there will be peace in the Middle East. But it won’t happen until Jesus comes again to set up His kingdom on earth and reign from Jerusalem. Hamas and Hezbollah leaders have stated they will never recognize the state of Israel. Thus the Jews will keep fighting for their survival. The Bible says that by mercy and truth” iniquity is purged. Christians’ hearts should be merciful towards others but also truthful even if we may not like the outcome of such truths. Pastor Nathan has a heart for God as is evidenced by his and his church’s outreach to the lost. On the subject of who the land belongs to however, I believe he is misguided. I discuss the subject of the land of Israel in several articles on my website. You can read them here:

Does the land of Israel belong to the Jews?

Christian Zionism: Christians and the Jews

This Generation: Womb to the Zoom (Rapture) or Tomb?

Thursday, November 26th, 2009
The Rapture

The Rapture

(November 26, 2009) The most controversial End-Times event is the Rapture. The controversy involves two main issues. The first is when will the Rapture take place in relation to other prophesied End-Times events.

The Tribulation Period

Both Jesus and and the prophet Daniel spoke of a future time of horror coming upon the earth and its inhabitants:

“21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.” - Matthew 24:21-22

“1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.” – Daniel 12:1

Some have stated that these two prophecies refer to the destruction of the Jewish Temple in 70 A.D. However, if the Holy Spirit was referring to that event then both prophecies would have been rendered inaccurate. The key phrases in these two passages speak of this future trouble as having never occurred at any time in history. That is not true for the Roman destruction of the Temple in 70 A.D. Six hundred years earlier the Babylonians destroyed the first Jewish Temple and took the Jewish nation captive. One could probably make a case for the two World Wars in the Twentieth Century as being the worst destruction and devastation in human history (aside from the Flood). Thus the time of trouble or Tribulation Period as Christians refer to it is yet future and will be unlike and other time in history.

The timing of the Rapture revolves around the Tribulation Period which will last seven years. It will occur just prior to the Tribulation or sometime during the seven years or at the end of the Tribulation when Jesus returns to the earth to judge the nations and set up His Millennial kingdom. Those who hold to a particular viewpoint on this issue usually are very passionate for their position and can quote scripture to support their belief. Because of this I don’t know when the Rapture will occur, only that it will occur because the apostle Paul prophesied it would in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 and 1 Corinthians 15:51-53. If it was clear when the Rapture would take place there wouldn’t be the divisiveness among Christians concerning this issue. These same Christians would agree that a person is saved only through the sacrificial atonement of Jesus Christ. They would agree that Jesus was born of a virgin. They would agree that Jesus Christ was crucified for our sins. They would agree that God raised Jesus from the dead. They would agree that Jesus ascended back into heaven. Why would they agree? Because God’s word is absolutely clear on these issues. Why don’t they agree on the timing of the Rapture? Because the Bible is not clear when it will take place. The fact that there is disagreement on this issue is proof that the Bible is not clear on the subject. (For further discussion on the timing of the Rapture please see Ch. 8 – The Rapture Mystery from my book Even at the Doors: Jesus, Israel, and the End-Times )

Here is a video from a church that believes in the Pre-Tribulation Rapture:

The Rapture, this Generation?

The second issue concerns when will the Rapture take place in God’s plan for humanity (and thereby all the End-Times prophesied events). There have been attempts by people in recent history to specify a date for the Rapture (contrary to Jesus’ statement that “of that day and hour knoweth no man” - Matthew 24:36). I remember one example that occurred in 1988. Edgar C. Whisenant published a booklet titled 88 Reasons Why the Rapture Will Be in 1988. Obviously the Rapture did not occur that year or any other year in history. One day the Rapture will occur. The apostle Paul declared in his letter to the Christians in Thessalonica, Greece:

“13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words. ” - 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

He elaborated on the Rapture teaching in his letter to the Christians in Corinth, Greece:

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.” - 1 Corinthians 15:51-53

In the first passage Paul was answering the Thessalonian Christians’ fear that they had missed the return of Jesus. He goes on to tell them that Jesus will descend from heaven and call His children to come up to Him in the air. The words “caught up” are translated from the Greek verb harpazo which means to seize suddenly or snatch away. The implication (as alluded to in the Corinthian passage which states this will occur in the twinkling of an eye) is that believers will be snatched up to Jesus (as in zoom up) in the air. When a Latin version of the Bible was created the word harpazo was translated into the Latin word from which we get the English word rapture.

Jesus’ disciples asked Him what would be the signs of His coming and the end of the age. He responded by giving them signs to look for in Matthew ch. 24 and said, “33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.” – Matthew 24:33-34 Thus, the generation that see the prophetic signs that Jesus gave will be the generation that experiences the Rapture.

Is the current generation the one that will see the End-Times come to pass? The Bible gives other prophecies concerning the End-Times. One of them declares that God will return the Jews to the land of Israel (Ezekiel ch. 37-39; Amos 9 – For further discussion on this subject please see ch. 18 – God’s Timepiece:Israel from my book Even at the Doors: Jesus, Israel, and the End-Times). Another one states that the Jewish Temple will be rebuilt in Jerusalem (Daniel 9; Matthew 24; 2 Thessalonians 2 – For further discussion on this subject please see my article 2 Thessalonians 2:4 – A Literal Third Temple). Both of these prophecies involve End-Times events. The fact that God returned the Jews (see my article Does the land of Israel belong to the Jews) in 1948 and that they have recreated the utensils and priestly garments that are to be used in Temple worship services indicate that God is not far off from implementing His End-Times plans. Globalization of economies and communications further suggest that the eschatological prophecies could be fulfilled in this current generation. However, only God knows when it will happen and wants His followers to keep living their lives for Him and watching for the signs that He said would occur at the end of the age. Whether we see the tomb or experience the zoom we are to keep our eyes on the Lord and keep “13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; 14 Who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto Himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. 15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority.” (Titus 2:13-15)

Biblical prophecy will be fulfilled and the Third Jewish Temple will be built in Jerusalem

Sunday, November 1st, 2009

westernwallangle(November 1, 2009) I received the following article in an email newsletter that I subscribe to from a Jewish organization based in Jerusalem:

1) Pray For The Peace Of Jerusalem by Moshe Kempinski

“Ever since the Day of Atonement the Temple Mount has again become a flashpoint of contention between Israel and the world. The Muslims have raised frantic calls throughout the Islamic world for them to come and protect their mosques from the Jewish heinous attempts to make Jerusalem Jewish. The Aqsa Foundation warned of new attempts by ‘extremist Jews’ to desecrate the Aqsa Mosque this week to commemorate what the Jews call the ‘Rambam ascent to the temple mount.’ The Foundation said that it views with concern calls by extremist Jewish organizations to desecrate the Aqsa Mosque under various pretexts. These calls come according to the agency after Muslim worshipers foiled attempts in the past by ‘extremist Jewish groups’ to desecrate the Aqsa mosque during Jewish holidays by praying on the mount (Heaven forefend).

The Palestinian Ambassador to the UN Riyad Mansour called on the Security Council to condemn Israel for its ‘aggressive actions’ at Temple Mount. In a letter to the assembly Mansour writes, ‘Israel engaged in violence, provocation, and incitement which threaten to increase mounting tension and harm regional stability.’ Jewish groups walking on the Temple Mount and some even mouthing silent prayers, it seems, constituted ‘violence provocation and incitement.’

If it wasn’t so ominous it would be humorous.

The Temple Mount is the holiest location in the universe according to Jewish understanding. It was from there that the world expanded into its present form, and it was there where Hashem gathered the earth used to create man. The Torah tells us that HaShem chose to rest His Divine Presence, in that location and two Jewish Temples, called the House of G-d, were built there . According to the prophecies of the Bible, the Third Temple will also be located here, and will eventually be the eternal House of Prayer for all nations. (Isaiah 1:2-3; Ezekiel . 37:26-28; 40-48;Micah . 4:1-2; Haggai. 2:7-9;and Zechariah 6:12-15; 14:20)

The world, though, and especially the Muslim world have yet to learn to digest, cope and accept that reality.”

As the above excerpt states the modern Jews have every intention of rebuilding the Third Temple on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.

The first Jewish Temple was built by King Solomon in 960 B.C. on the area now known as the Temple Mount. The Babylonians destroyed it in 586 B.C. A second Temple was built in 515 B.C. and renovated by King Herod beginning circa 20 B.C. The Romans destroyed this Temple in 70 A.D. during the Jewish revolt. There are several prophecies in the Bible that indicate a third Jewish Temple will be built in Jerusalem. Please see my article 2 Thessalonians 2:4 – A Literal Third Temple for a discussion of the relevant prophetic passages. What is astonishing is that the Jews as a nation ceased to exist after a second Jewish revolt in 135 A.D. yet 1800 years later they once again reside in Israel as a Jewish nation. Until 1948 there was no reason for a Jewish temple to be built. Neither Christians nor Muslims needed a temple to worship. The Jews however do need a Temple in order to reinstate the sacrificial system God ordained in the Law. Now that the Jews have returned to the land they are in a position to build the Temple. As you can see from the following CBN (Christian Broacasting Network) video the Jews have completed their preparations for the Third Temple:

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The major obstacle for the Jews rebuilding their Temple is the presence of the Muslim shrine The Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque on the Temple Mount. Recent events illustrate the volatile nature of the situation between the Jews and Arabs and the Temple Mount (Violent clashes erupt at Jerusalem’s holiest site). Some have stated that violence is the only answer in settling this issue (Mashaal: Fate of Jerusalem will be determined by confrontation, not talks). From a biblical viewpoint, how this situation is resolved is a matter of some prophetic speculation. Some believe the Antichrist will be able to persuade the Muslims to allow the Jews to build their Temple. Others think that somehow the Temple will be built alongside the Dome of the Rock. Another prophetic possibility revolves around the future invasion of Israel by the surrounding Muslim nations and their alliances (see my article The Coming Invasion of Israel). The Book of Ezekiel declares that God will destroy the invading armies. This could leave Muslims demoralized with Allah or totally defeated so they could not resist the rebuilding of the Jewish Temple.

However this event comes about it will happen at some point in the future. The fact that the Jews are ready for the Temple to be erected and that they are back in the land for the first time in nearly two millennia is prophetically illuminating. Only God knows when all these things will take place.

Does the land of Israel belong to the Jews? New Evangelicalism, Sojourners, and others versus Christian Zionism

Wednesday, April 29th, 2009

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(April 29, 2009)  There is an evangelical organization called Sojourners which was founded in 1971 whose mission statement reads as follows: “Our mission is to articulate the biblical call to social justice, inspiring hope and building a movement to transform individuals, communities, the church, and the world.” Their website’s “About Us” history section states the following: “Sojourners are Christians who follow Jesus, but who also sojourn with others in different faith traditions and all those who are on a spiritual journey. We are evangelicals, Catholics, Pentecostals and Protestants; progressives and conservatives; blacks, whites, Latinos, and Asians; women and men; young and old. We reach into traditional churches but also out to those who can’t fit into them. Together we seek to discover the intersection of faith, politics, and culture. We invite you to join, to connect, and to act.”

Sojourners takes a position on the liberal or progressive side of politics. The leaders of Sojourners along with some other nationally prominent pastors declare they have taken on the mantle of the “New Evangelical” movement which focuses on: “the fundamental moral and biblical issues of global poverty and commitments like the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs), human trafficking, religious liberty, genocide in Darfur, and foreign policy issues like torture and even nuclear weapons. The NAE’s critically important statement, ‘For the Health of the Nation’, bears powerful witness to the wider agenda that is the shape of the new evangelical movement in America, and certainly around the world—especially for the next generation.” (Rich Cizik, Pioneer for New Evangelicals, Resigns from NAE) One of their mantras leading up to the American Presidential election in 2008 was that there are more issues than just abortion and gay marriage. This is a true statement as far as it goes. However, the legalized slaughter of more than 40 million unborn babies should have a prominent place in any discussion of the Christian faith’s influence on the American political system (since it was the government’s court system which declared abortion to be legal). As far as the poverty issue the New Evangelical movement wants to excessively rely on the government to help solve this issue. That is okay from a secular point of view but not a biblical one. Nowhere did Jesus tell His followers to look to the government to meet their earthly needs. To the contrary He declared, “Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.” (Matthew 6:31-34) He told His followers they were to help the poor, “For ye have the poor with you always, and whensoever ye will ye may do them good: but Me ye have not always.” Christianity has been at the forefront of this issue throughout history by establishing Christian hospitals, missions, and colleges.

The problem I’ve come across in reading the writings of Sojourner leaders and followers is that they seem to downplay the significance of God’s revealed word found in the Holy Bible. In a response to one of the blog articles written on the Sojourners’ website concerning the gay rights issue a poster wrote the following comment: “When you take away the compromised translations and hand-me-down interpretations, the Bible has nothing to say against loving, monogamous, life-long gay relationships.” (Evangelicals Need to Love Gay People) A blogger on a different website discussed the nature of the “emergent church” (which could apply to Sojourners as well) “when the church is founded upon human discontent, desire to improve what God has designed or any other basis than upon Jesus Christ and His Word, it is destined for corruption and failure. The emergent church, in a very few years, has already moved onto the slippery slope and every passing day and every new church plant magnifies that error.” (What’s wrong with the Emergent Church?)

The purpose of my article deals with another position that Sojourners and the other prominent new evangelical leaders take on the modern nation of Israel. Concerning the issue of Israel and Christians Jim Wallis, a leader of Sojourners, wrote in 2007, “The completely one-sided support for Israel from some conservative evangelicals rests on two things: one, a very dubious interpretation (I’m being generous here) of biblical prophecy and eschatology (the theology of the “end times”) in which the modern state of Israel is still equated with the Old Testament notion of “God’s chosen people;” and two, a complete denial of the very existence of Palestinian Christians…One of the most hopeful signs, however, was a recent letter to President Bush by evangelical leaders who clearly dissented from the militant perspective of their Christian Zionist brothers. It said: ‘We also write to correct a serious misperception among some people, including some U.S. policymakers, that all American evangelicals are opposed to a two-state solution and creation of a new Palestinian state that includes the vast majority of the West Bank. Nothing could be further from the truth. We, who sign this letter, represent large numbers of evangelicals throughout the U.S. who support justice for both Israelis and Palestinians.’” Mr. Wallis seems to make the point I described in the previous paragraph about downplaying the significance of the Bible when he used the phrase “a very dubious interpretation (I’m being generous here) of biblical prophecy and eschatology”. What follows is an exchange of comments on the Sojourners’ blog between myself and two other posters who disagreed with me concerning Israel and their right to the land of Israel. I quote prophetic scriptures throughout my comments that are unmistakable in saying that God promised the physical land of Israel to the Jews forever yet Mr. Wallis would say that my “interpretation” is very dubious. When you read the quoted scriptures you will see that no interpretation is needed. One only needs to read the plainly written word of God to understand His plan for Israel.

My response and follow-ups were written concerning an article Brian McLaren wrote on the Sojourner’s website titled: “Four Points Toward Peace in the Middle East” In this article he wrote:

“The need to confront the terrible, deadly, distorted, yet popular theologies associated with Christian Zionism and deterministic dispensationalism. These systems of belief — so common among my fellow evangelical Christians — too often lead people to act as if Jewish people have God-given rights but Palestinians do not. They use a discredited hermeneutic (way of interpreting the Bible) to imply that God shows favoritism — that God is concerned for justice for one group of people and not for others. They create bigotry and prejudice against Muslims in general … and in particular against Palestinians, many of whom are Muslim but many of whom are Christian too. These doctrinal formulations often use a bogus end-of-the-world scenario to create a kind of death-wish for World War III, which — unless it is confronted more robustly by the rest of us — could too easily create a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you hold to a deterministic-dispensationalist or Zionist theology, I sincerely hope you will rethink your view. I grew up with these views as well, and have become thoroughly convinced that they are not only biblically unfaithful but also, in too many cases, morally and ethically harmful.”

The criticism of Christian Zionism comes not only from the progressive New Evangelicalism but is also shared by Jews who reject Jesus as the Messiah. They believe that Christians only want the Jews back in the land of Israel in order to fulfill End-Times prophecies. Many End-Times prophecies do indeed revolve around Israel, the third Jewish Temple, and the Jewish people. However, this is not why I support the Jews’ right to the land of Israel. I support their right to the land because God gave it to them for an everlasting possession.

One respondent who disagreed with my position persistently challenged me on this issue. Below you will find my responses to each of his challenges. Because I am unsure of copyright laws concerning comments on blogs (After searching the web I found there is no consensus as to what material is copyrighted and who the owner of that material is) I will paraphrase the objections he raised but my responses will be written in their entirety. Comments I make for this article will be purple, the words of God that I quote will be in red, the challenger’s words will be in blue, and my original posts and responses will be in black. I will number the posts to keep them organized.



 

1   This was my initial post in response to his article:



 

{my response to Mr. McLaren} “As long as Hezbollah exists, it will never recognise Israel.” – leader of Lebanon’s Islamist Hezbollah movement, Hassan Nasrallah March 14, 2009. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7943357.stm)

As long as there are Muslim extremists who hate Israel there will never be peace in that land.

I do believe and accept the biblical prophecies that foretell of a horrible time coming upon the earth. However, that is not why I support the Jews’ right to the land of Israel. I support their right because of what God says in His word:

“And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, ‘I am the Almighty God; walk before Me, and be thou perfect. And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly.” And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying, “As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations. Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee. And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee. And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an EVERLASTING covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an EVERLASTING possession; and I will be their God.’” (Genesis 17:1-8)

“And God said to Abraham ‘Sarah, your wife, will bear you a son and you shall call his name Isaac and I will establish My covenant with him for an everlasting covenant and with his descendants after him. As for Ishmael, I have blessed him and will make him fruitful and will make him a great nation. But My covenant will I establish with Isaac.’” (Genesis 17:19-21)

“And Jacob went out from Beersheba, and went toward Haran. And he came upon a certain place, and tarried there all night, because the sun was set; and he took of the stones of that place, and put them for his pillows, and lay down in that place to sleep. And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it. And, behold, the LORD stood above it, and said, ‘I am the LORD God of Abraham your father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon you lie, to you will I give it, and to your seed; And your seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and you shall spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in you and in your seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.’” (Genesis 28:10-14)

You say that God is no respecter of persons and right you are when it comes to anyone being able to receive salvation through Jesus Christ. However God called the Jews His “chosen people”: “For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto Himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.” (Deuteronomy 7:6)

Because the Jews as a people rejected Jesus as their Messiah does not void the “EVERLASTING covenant” that God made with them concerning the physical land of Israel:

“For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: The Deliverer will come out of Zion, and He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; For this is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins. Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.” (Romans 11:25-29)

In the prophetic book of Amos God promised to bring the Jews back to their land and they would never be taken away from it again:

“And I will bring again the captivity of My people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.” (Amos 9:14-15)

Was God wrong when He commanded the Jews to conquer the land of Canaan/Israel and defeat the inhabitants that had occupied that land for hundreds of years? How do you not know that the current situation is not the beginning of the fulfillment of God’s word to bring the Jews back to the land nevermore to be uprooted from it. For 1800 years the Jews had no nation of their own. They should have assimilated and disappeared into every culture where they were dispersed. Yet they maintained their Jewish identity. Several places in the Old Testament God makes it clear that He will decide when the Jews will live in the land and when He will remove them as a form of judgment. Do you think after 1800 years God no longer cares what happens to His chosen people? The Bible declares, “But the land, whither ye go to possess it, is a land of hills and valleys, and drinketh water of the rain of heaven: A land which the LORD thy God careth for: the eyes of the LORD thy God are always upon it, from the beginning of the year even unto the end of the year.” (Deuteronomy 11:11-12)

I do not need to “rethink” my views on this issue. I’ll take God’s word over the word of humans who try to reinterpret His word in order to fit the modern world’s view of the way things should be. Mr. McLaren, is it possible that you need to “re-rethink” your views? {end my response to Mr. McLaren}



 

2   This first comment on my initial post was made by a different responder than all the other responses that follow. This was my response to his post:



  

{respondent 1} Genesis 17 declared that Abraham would be the father of many nations and this was the covenant with Israel and that Jesus was the Jewish Messiah who would fulfill this promise. {end respondent}

{my response} You seem to be conflating two promises God made to Abraham:

“And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.” (Genesis 12:2-3) Jesus fulfilled this promise when He brought salvation to all who would receive Him.

“And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.” (Genesis 17:7-8) This second passage refers to the physical land of Israel and that He promised to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob’s descendants, the Jews. {end my response}

{respondent 1} His next point was there weren’t many people who wanted to see Israel disappear with except for Hamas and Hezbollah. {end respondent}

{my response} It doesn’t take a whole lot of extremists to keep disrupting the peace in Israel. As long as they exist they cannot allow Israel to live on land that they believe Allah gave to them. {end my response}

{respondent 1} He asked what are the boundaries of Israel? {end respondent}

{my response} God told the Jews that Israel’s boundaries would be: “In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates.” (Genesis 15:18) The Israelites never conquered all the land that God said was theirs. What the boundaries are under the current situation I cannot say. He simply said that one day He would return the Jews to Israel never to be uprooted from it again. {end my response}

{respondent 1} He then asked what should happen to the non-Jews living there? {end respondent}

{my response} They can continue to live there. The ones who left did so at the urging of the Arab governments who vowed to drive the Jews into the sea in 1948. {end my response}

{respondent 1} He then asked what should happen to the Christians who lived in Israel? {end respondent}

{my response} They too should continue to live in the land. {end my response}

{respondent 1} What about Galatians 3:28 which declared all believers to part of Abraham’s seed? {end respondent}

{my response} Paul wrote: “And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also: And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised. For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect: Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all, (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were. Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.” (Romans 4:11-18)

Paul declares that it is faith that saved Abraham. He states, “to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the FAITH of Abraham.” This means that everyone, whether Jew or Gentile, who believes God’s word and receives Jesus as the Messiah is a seed or descendant of Abraham. How can this be since Gentiles are not physically descended from Abraham? Paul is clearly speaking of Christians as a “spiritual” descendant of Abraham. Likewise, when Paul refers to Christians as the “Israel of God” in Galatians 6:15-16, he is saying that Christians, as a body of believers, are the “spiritual” Israel of God.

Paul himself made a distinction between Christians (the spiritual descendants of Abraham) and the Jews (the physical descendants of Abraham):

“I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew…What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded…(According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day. And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them: Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway. I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness? For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them. For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead? For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches. And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again. For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree? For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father’s sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.” (Romans 11:1-2,8-32)

Paul says here that one day in the future “all Israel” will be saved. Israel cannot refer to Christians since Christians are already saved (I’m not talking about everyone who calls themselves a Christian).

Christians don’t need the land of Israel (crusades notwithstanding) so therefore the promise God made in Amos to return the Jews to the land forever does not refer to the spiritual seed but to the physical seed of Abraham. At the second coming of Christ they will become His spiritual seed also.

[ For a former Islamic terrorist's point of view on the land of Israel you can visit Walid Shoebat's website at www.shoebat.com ] {end my response}



 

3   This second response to my initial post was made by a different responder. The rest of my posts from here on are in response to his posts:



 

{respondent 2} He made a mocking comment about God’s word as it applies to the One World Government of the United Nations. {end respondent}

{my response} Are you implying that God does not use nations to fulfill His will? He used Egypt to fulfill His promise to Abraham (Genesis 15:13) . He used the Chaldeans/Babylonians to perform His judgment: “For, lo, I RAISE up the Chaldeans, that bitter and hasty nation, which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess the dwellingplaces that are not their’s.” (Habakkuk 1:6) He used the emperor of Rome to fulfill the prophecy that the Messiah was to be born in Bethlehem (Luke 2:1). Do you think He then could not use the United Nations to fulfill His will? {end my response}

{respondent 2} He made another derisive comment saying Of course God could use the UN and that I should go there and fill them in on what God’s will was. {end respondent}

{my response} “Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.” (Luke 16:29) The Bible is the bestselling book of all time. There are plenty of them around. The members of the United Nations can get them and read for themselves what God’s will is. {end my response}

{respondent 2} He asked what the UN’s will for Palestine was today? {end respondent}

{my response} I don’t know what the UN’s will for Palestine is. I know what God’s will is for the land of Israel. You can read my previous posts to find out. {end my response}

{respondent 2} Lastly he asked what happens to the Jews in the end. Are they there for Christians to see the signs of the End-Times? He stated that it was after all about Christians who were intent on seeing the destruction that is to occur in the last days. {end respondent}

{my response} No, He has them there to create the utopia He desired for humans to have all along. But before that happens He will judge the world for its wicked rebellion against His word. He did this once before with the flood. Do you believe that God is a righteous judge who will send those who have rejected His Son to hell? {end my response}



 

This was his next response to my making a point about the judgmental side of God’s nature:



 

{respondent 2} He responded to my question about God sending someone to hell. He said yes. Then he asked if I believe God is loving and doesn’t take pleasure in the death of the wicked, that His goodness leads persons to repentance, and that God has the power to destroy hell? {end respondent}

{my response} Yes but His word says that hell is not temporary but calls it everlasting fire: “Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into EVERELASTING fire. And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.” (Matthew 18:8-9) {end my response}

{respondent 2} He then asked if I believe that Jesus was the second Adam and that God is no longer obsessing over what mountain His people worship Him on? {end respondent}

{my response} Yes until the “fulness of the Gentiles be come in”. (Romans 11:25)  After that happens though God says: “And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD’s house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.” (Isaiah 2:2-4)

You kept asking me “Do you believe” and I answered yes to those questions. Why? Because it is in God’s word just like the prophecy in Amos that says that one day He will return the Jews to the land of Israel. {end my response}



 

5   He now tells me the mistake I am making:



 

{respondent 2} He told me I was not believing God’s word but a systematic series of beliefs (meaning dispensationalism) based on chronology, geography, and soothsaying. He said this type of thinking doesn’t lead to peacemaking and reconciliation. He stated when he was a young believer he believed in Zionist Rapture theology but now believes in God’s love of justice and peace for all rather that the self-congratulatory correctness of doctrine. He said that raising a family can temper a person’s confidence in having all the answers. {end respondent}

{my response} I have quoted scripture after scripture that shows God promised the land of Israel to the Jews forever. I have quoted scripture that shows God promised to one day bring the Jews back to the land of Israel forever. This has nothing to do with some systematic doctrine. It is the plain reading of God’s word.

The agnostic American author Mark Twain wrote in 1898 an article about the Jews:

“If the statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one percent of the human race. It suggests a nebulous dim puff of star dust lost in the blaze of the Milky Way. Properly the Jew ought hardly be heard of; but he is heard of, has always been heard of. He is as prominent on the planet as any other people, and his commercial importance is extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his bulk. His contributions to the world’s list of great names in literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine, and obtuse learning are also way out of proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a marvelous fight in this world in all the ages, and has done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself and be excused for it. The Egyptians, the Babylonians, and the Persians rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, and faded to dream stuff and passed away. The Greeks and the Romans followed and made a vast noise and they are gone. Other peoples have sprung up and held their torch high for a time. But it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, or have vanished. The Jew saw them all. Beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jew. All other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?”

As I said in an earlier post the Jews were dispersed 1800 years ago. They were persecuted and killed everywhere they went. No country, including America, would take them at the beginning of the Holocaust. They should have assimilated and disappeared as a people in all the various cultures they were dispersed to yet they maintained their identity for 18 centuries. Yet, even after 6 million of them died during the Holocaust they were able to have a homeland. A homeland not located just anywhere in the world but in their biblical homeland of Israel.

The answer to Mark Twain’s question as to why the Jews are still around is simple. God! God says in His word that He has a plan for Israel and that one day all Israel will be saved. The scriptures could not be more clear on this issue.

I think it is obvious by now that I am very passionate about the Jews and the land of Israel. I even had the privilege to go there in 1986. I too would love to see everyone living in peace there, both Jew and Arab. It will happen one day according to God’s word. {end my response}



 

6   In this next post he implies that I only came to my belief that the land belongs to Israel because I had read other dispensationalist’s writings. He also declares that Zionism is racism which would make me a racist if I’m a Zionist. What is ironic about this charge is that the next day the United Nations held their anti-racism conference in Geneva Switzerland. The Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad gave a speech there in which he too equated Zionism with racism according to CNN (Envoys walk out of U.N. anti-racism conference)



 

{respondent 2} He challenged me in response to my stating earlier that it is the plain reading of God’s word and not dispensationalism that led me to my belief that Israel belongs to the Jews. He questioned that I could come to this conclusion by only reading the Bible and made a comment that if so then Darby has nothing on me. {end respondent}

{my response} Just because theologians have placed a label on a series of beliefs based on scriptures does not negate the truth of those scriptures. God said clearly that the land of Israel belongs to the Jews. Therefore the land belongs to the Jews. {end my response}

{respondent 2} He now responds to my comment about my saying I was very passionate about the Jews and Israel and that I had visited there in 1986. He states that Zionism is racism and that I am a Zionist which to him meant racist {end respondent}

{my response} If by Zionist you mean that I believe that the land of Israel belongs to the Jews then yes I am a Zionist. Since God declared this to be so I guess He is a Zionist also. Does this make Him a racist too? {end my response}

{respondent 2} He said the quoting of scripture didn’t impress him and that the Bible could be used to justify slavery.

{my response} What do YOU think those passages mean in Genesis where God said that the land of Israel would be theirs for an everlasting possession? {end my response}

{respondent 2} He then said my reasoning could be applied to any racist group and would not lead to peacemaking. My only solution was death or conversion of the Arabs. Some peace! He then asked if I can believe for the salvation of all Israel why can’t I believe for the salvation of all peoples? He quoted John 3:16 {end respondent}

{my response} Why does my support of the Jews’ right to the land of Israel mean that I don’t believe in the salvation for all peoples? Every person whether Jew or Gentile can receive salvation through Jesus Christ: “But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.” (John 1:12-13)

I mentioned in an earlier post a former terrorist who did receive Jesus Christ as his Savior. He too thinks the land of Israel belongs to the Jews. Why would he believe that? Is he a victim of dispensationalism or has he read the Bible for himself? His website states the following: “In 1993, Walid studied the Tanach (Jewish Bible) in a challenge to convert his wife to Islam. Six months later, after intense study, Walid realized that everything he had been taught about Jews was a lie. Convinced he was on the side of evil, he became an advocate for his former enemy.”
(http://www.shoebat.com/bio.php?PHPSESSID=a31d0d) {end my response}



 

7   In this next post he asked about my Genesis question and accuses me of evading:



 

{respondent 2} He asked me if my question about his understanding of the verses in Genesis referred to God promising the land to Abraham’s descendants? He then said I was evading his earlier point. {end respondent}

{my response} This whole discussion can be boiled down to one simple question. Does God say in His word the land of Israel belongs to the Jews? {end my response}



 

8   While this exchange was going on he made another post which I did not respond to:



 

{respondent 2} He said that although he had been sharp with me there was no personal acrimony involved. He said that he admired my love of God’s word and that hopefully it would lead both of us into a deeper understanding of who He is. He finished up with “shalom, my brother”. {end respondent}



 

9   At this time he started a separate line of questioning:



 

{respondent 2} He asked if I thought modern Israel should treat the Palestinians as ancient Israel treated the Canaanites? He said that after all we wanted to be biblical. He asked a question about Jewish exceptionalism and the false prophets of Jeremiah’s time. {end respondent}

{my response} It only matters what God thinks when it comes to fulfilling His word. Do you think God was wrong to command the Jews to invade the land of Canaan and conquer the inhabitants who had lived there for hundreds of years? {end my response}



 

10   He now questions my reasoning on the importance of God’s word:



 

{respondent 2} He said if only God’s word matters then why do I voice my opinion? He also said I was dodging his question. {end respondent}

{my response} I think you have seen that I quote God’s word extensively in my posts. That is because it is His word that matters. You seem to be adverse to answering the question I posed so I will try again. Do you think God was wrong to command the Jews to invade the land of Canaan and conquer the inhabitants who had lived there for hundreds of years? {end my response}



 

11   He now answers my Canaanite question and then wants to know where modern Israel’s occupation of Palestine is God’s command:



 

{respondent 2} No. He asks me where God commanded the Jews to occupy modern-day Palestine and what revelation I have to say that Israel is to play that role today? {end respondent}



 

12   Before I had a chance to answer his question (which I did almost immediately) he posted the following:



 

{respondent 2} He said now that he had answered my Canaanite question he expected me to answer his and not hide behind the mysterious God with a false humility not pretending to know the specifics of God’s will. {end respondent}



 

13   Here was the answer I was typing when he warned me not to avoid his question:



 

{my response} The prophet Daniel declares that it is God who sets up kings and thereby countries for them to rule over: “Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are His: And He changeth the times and the seasons: He removeth kings, and setteth up kings: He giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding: He revealeth the deep and secret things: He knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with Him.” (Daniel 2:20-22) Thus, it was God’s will for the modern state of Israel to be created.

In the Old Testament God declared that it is His decision when the Jews live in the promised land and when they don’t. He tells Moses to warn the Israelites that if they obey Him they will be blessed in the land of Israel. However, if they disobey Him, He will remove them from the land:

“And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that the LORD thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the earth: And all these blessings shall come on thee, and overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God. Blessed shalt thou be in the city, and blessed shalt thou be in the field…And it shall come to pass, that as the LORD rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it. And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone. And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the LORD shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind.” (Deuteronomy 28:1-3,63-65)

Notice in this passage that it is the LORD who scatters the Jews from the land.

Later in Israel’s history, God removed the Jews from the land for their disobedience. He used the Babylonian Empire to perform His judgment.

However, He tells them that He will return them to the land after seventy years:

“Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, unto all that are carried away captives, whom I have caused to be carried away from Jerusalem unto Babylon…For thus saith the LORD, That after seventy years be accomplished at Babylon I will visit you, and perform my good word toward you, in causing you to return to this place. For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.” (Jeremiah 29:4,10-11)

Again God states that He is the one who caused the Jews to be carried away to Babylon and He will be the one to cause them to return to Israel.

In the book of the prophet Amos God promised to bring the Jews back to the land forever:

“And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.” (Amos 9:14-15)

God declares that He is always watching Israel:

“But the land, whither ye go to possess it, is a land of hills and valleys, and drinketh water of the rain of heaven: A land which the LORD thy God careth for: the eyes of the LORD thy God are always upon it, from the beginning of the year even unto the end of the year.” (Deuteronomy 11:11-12)

God emphasizes throughout His word that He is always interested in what is going on in the land of Israel and that He determines when the Jews live in the land. Thus the Jews couldn’t have returned to the land of Israel unless it was God’s will for them to do so.

There is coming a time when the focus of salvation on Gentiles is coming to an end as the apostle Paul wrote: “For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is My covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.” (Romans 11:25-27)

You said that God was not wrong in using the Israelites to punish the Canaanites and take their land. If He did it then could He not do it now? For you to be consistent you would have to agree that if God is doing this now then it wouldn’t be wrong this time either. Since God’s word makes it clear that He determines when the Jews live on the land then modern Israel is the fulfillment of His will. {end my response}



 

14   Now we return to the other discussion concerning my “boiled down” question Does the   Bible say that the land of Israel belongs to the Jews:



 

{respondent 2} He turns the question around about who the decendants of Abraham are? He references Galatians 3:28 and asks if it isn’t possible that the land belongs to faithful Christians, Jews, and Muslims who desire to please Him by faith? {end respondent}

{my response} I addressed this issue in my earlier response to [the first respondents name]. I will repost it here.

Paul wrote: “And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also: And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised. For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect: Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all, (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were. Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.” (Romans 4:11-18)

Paul declares that it is faith that saved Abraham. He states, “to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the FAITH of Abraham.” This means that everyone, whether Jew or Gentile, who believes God’s word and receives Jesus as the Messiah is a seed or descendant of Abraham. How can this be since Gentiles are not physically descended from Abraham? Paul is clearly speaking of Christians as a “spiritual” descendant of Abraham. Likewise, when Paul refers to Christians as the “Israel of God” in Galatians 6:15-16, he is saying that Christians, as a body of believers, are the “spiritual” Israel of God.

Paul himself made a distinction between Christians (the spiritual descendants of Abraham) and the Jews (the physical descendants of Abraham):

“I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew…What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded…(According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day. And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them: Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway. I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness? For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them. For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead? For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches. And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again. For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree? For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father’s sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.” (Romans 11:1-2,8-32)

Paul says here that one day in the future “all Israel” will be saved. Israel cannot refer to Christians since Christians are already saved (I’m not talking about everyone who calls themselves a Christian).

Christians don’t need the land of Israel (crusades notwithstanding) so therefore the promise God made in Amos to return the Jews to the land forever does not refer to the spiritual seed but to the physical seed of Abraham. At the second coming of Christ they will become His spiritual seed also. {end my response}

{respondent 2} He also asked why I believed God will send those who reject Jesus to hell while at the same time rewarding the Jews who rejected Jesus with the land of Israel? {end respondent}

{my response} As stated above, Paul declares, “For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father’s sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.”

Even though the Jews currently reject Jesus as their Messiah they are still beloved by God. Even though they are in rebellion against God He still has a covenant with them to take away their sins. His covenant concerning the land was an “everlasting covenant” and as Paul writes the gifts and calling of God are without repentance or are irrevocable. The word everlasting distinguishes it from other covenants that are not everlasting.

He will send both Jew and Gentile to hell if they reject His Son Jesus Christ. However, He will give the land of Israel to the Jews because it His plan to do so. {end my response}



 

15   He now responds to my answer concerning the difference between spiritual Israel and Christians and physical Israel and Jews:



 

{respondent 2} He said that if I could live with the contradictions of my beliefs then more power to me. He said that I answered his questions by using selected Scripture quotations and just say it’s God’s plan so we need to just submit like in Islam. He said that he agreed that God is no respecter of persons and that there other solutions to the Middle East problem than my suggested imposition of peace by a Jesus who loves the Jews more than any other people. He said I will not persuade him to my fatalistic outlook because he is believes in the supremacy of Jesus’ words as espoused in the Gospels and which for all my love of God’s word I had not quoted once. {end respondent}

{my response} What you call fatalism I call reality. It does appear we are not persuading each other. {end my response}

{respondent 2} The supremacy of Jesus’ words as espoused in the Gospels and which for all my love of God’s word I had not quoted once. {end respondent}

{my response} Sorry but you are incorrect here. In my response to your “implying” that because I am a Zionist I am therefore a racist I said:

“Why does my support of the Jews’ right to the land of Israel mean that I don’t believe in the salvation for all peoples? Every person whether Jew or Gentile can receive salvation through Jesus Christ: “But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.” (John 1:12-13)” {end my response}



 

16   He then makes his final post:



 

{respondent 2} He said I was quoting John and not Jesus. {end respondent}

{my response} I’m sorry. I misunderstood what you said. I thought you meant that I hadn’t referenced the gospels. {end my response}

{respondent 2} He said regardless could I quote Jesus where he said anything close to the position that I and others like me who believe that God’s word says the land of Israel belonging to the Jews {end respondent}

 {my response}I have already done so throughout my posts:

“‘I am the Almighty God; walk before Me, and be thou perfect. And I will make My covenant between Me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly.” And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying, ‘As for Me, behold, My covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations. Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee. And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee. And I will establish My covenant between Me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an EVERLASTING covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an EVERLASTING possession; and I will be their God.’” (Genesis 17:1-8)

“And I will bring again the captivity of My people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.” (Amos 9:14-15)

As far as Jesus’ ministry on earth His primary focus was on revealing God’s love and God’s plan of redemption to the Jews. In doing so He was fulfilling the promise of Genesis 12 that all the families of the world would be blessed through Abraham. Jesus was born of Jewish heritage and through the Jews’ spreading His gospel the world became blessed. He said “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” (Matthew 15:24) He told His disciples, “These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.” (Matthew 10:5-7) Jesus did help the Gentile woman and the Gentile centurion but His focus was on the Jews. Jesus said, “Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22) He also said He had sheep from a different fold. His plan was to use His Jewish disciples to carry the gospel to them. Paul confirms this when he declared, “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek” (Romans 1:16) {end my last response}




End of the discussion 




 

There were a few more posts by others after this last post which all supported the biblical idea that the land of Israel belongs to the Jews. I hope this exchange was instructive in illustrating how there is a segment in the modern Church which does not seem to place much emphasis on the plain reading of prophetic scriptures. In this last post he asked me if I believed in the supremacy of the words of Jesus Christ. I responded by quoting Old Testament verses. My purpose in doing this is to show that the supremacy of Jesus’ words is not limited to the gospels but to the entire word of God from Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 22:21. Jesus said, “Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.” The New Testament makes it clear that Jesus Christ is God come in the flesh (John ch.1). Therefore when God speaks in the Old Testament Jesus Christ is speaking. Even if a person wanted to make the distinction that God the Father was speaking in the Old Testament Jesus said that He always did His Father’s will, “I can of Mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and My judgment is just; because I seek not Mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent Me.” (John 5:30) and “Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am He, and that I do nothing of Myself; but as My Father hath taught Me, I speak these things. And He that sent Me is with Me: the Father hath not left Me alone; for I do always those things that please Him. (John 8:28-29) Therefore, since it is God’s will that the Jews inhabit the land of Israel then it is Jesus’ will also. The Bible makes it clear that God is same being in both the Old and New Testaments: “For I am the LORD, I change not” (Malachi 3:6) and “Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.” (Hebrews 13:8)

Earlier he had asked me how could God bless the Jews who rejected Jesus Christ with the land of Israel yet not the Palestinians who also had rejected Jesus Christ. The same question could be applied to the first conquest of Canaan by the Israelites. God told Abraham that He would send Abraham’s descendants into slavery because the Canaanites’ cup of abominations was not full. For all the time the Canaanites lived on the land they committed abominations before the LORD. Why didn’t he immediately give the land to the Jews? Because it wasn’t His plan to do so at that time. Today He gave the land of Israel to the Jews because it is His plan to do so.

At the beginning of this article I stated that the End-Times revolved around the Jews being back in the land of Israel. However, after reading this article you will see that I have made it clear that the land of Israel belongs to the Jews in spite of End-Times prophecy. It belongs to the Jews because God gave it to them in His promise to Abraham. I believe the poster who questioned my beliefs on this issue represents the views held by the New Evangelicalism leaders and those of Sojourners. As I said, they tend to downplay the Scriptures that don’t fit their modern worldview of the way things should be. I hope this article will help you in using discernment to ascertain the truth of God’s word: “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” (II Timothy 2:15)

“And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies” – Revelation 11:9

Monday, April 6th, 2009
Western Wall in Jerusalem

Western Wall in Jerusalem

(April 6, 2009 ) Today I visited a website that I had not been to in more than a year. As soon as I saw how dramatically their technology had improved I immediately thought of a prophecy in the Book of Revelation: “1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. 4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. 5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedethout of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. 6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earthwith all plagues, as often as they will. 7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. 8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. 9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. 10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. 11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. 12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. 14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.” (Revelation 11:1-14) God was showing His servant John what was going to take place in the future. In this passage John sees the third Jewish Temple standing in Jerusalem. He then sees two witnesses for God preaching near the Temple. These two witnesses have some sort of supernatural power which they use if someone tries to interfere with their prophesying. After 3 and 1/2 years the Antichrist or Satan through him is allowed to kill these two prophets of God. Their bodies are left in the street in Jerusalem. John says that the whole world will see them lying there dead. How could the whole world see them in Jerusalem?

This wasn’t possible until the last half of the 20th century. With the advent of television it is now possible for the entire earth to see a particular event or location anywhere in the world. The Internet adds another dimension to this phenomenon. The website that I visited used to have a camera focused on the Western Wall which is located at the base of the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. You could see a relatively live camera shot of the wall and the people visiting it. The last time I saw this site the picture had to reload every few seconds and so the people’s movements were choppy. Today I saw the improvement they had made and now you can see and hear in actual real time the Wall and those visiting it. It is truly like looking out a window and seeing the wall as if you were standing there in person. You can see this site at:  The Kotel.org

All John states is that the whole world sees this event take place. He does not describe how they can see it. Outside of God supernaturally flashing these scenes on the sky, this is the first time in history that such an event can take place and fulfill this prophecy. This prophetic passage along with others were not able to take place before now. The global economic system John sees in Revelation 13 is only possible in the modern electronic age with digital transactions. Most important of all, there would be no Jewish Temple in Jerusalem if the Jews never returned to Israel. The year 1948 changed that when God miraculously brought the Jews back to their land. The Jews have made all the utensils and priestly garments that they will use in the Temple services (see The Temple Institute website). All they are waiting for is someone who can help them rebuild it. We are truly living in a remarkable time.

“Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about…And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people” – Zechariah 12:2-3

Thursday, March 19th, 2009
smalljerusalemstorm

Jerusalem

(March 19, 2009)  In February of 2008 I wrote an article titled: (Why is Israel in the world news every day?) For more than 1800 years there was no nation of Israel. In 1948 the modern state of Israel was born. Ever since then Israel has consistently been in the news. The reason for this is because God declares in His word, “1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him. 2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. 3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it…9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. 10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.” (Zechariah 12:1-3,9-10)  In the last days Jerusalem will be at the center of God’s End-Times plans. This would have been unthinkable over the last eighteen centuries but in 2009 it is clear that this prophecy can be fulfilled. It has been a year since I wrote that article but Israel is still front and center on the world stage.

 The global edition of the New York Times, The International Herald Tribune, has an article titled:  (Is a global rebranding what Israel needs?) The premise of the article is that Israel is under constant criticism from the world for its actions over the decades and Benjamin Netanyahu’s election as the new Prime Minister will only exacerbate the situation. The article states, “Israel, whose founding idea was branded as racism by the United Nations General Assembly in 1975 and which faced an Arab boycott for decades, is no stranger to isolation. But since its Gaza war, and as it prepares to inaugurate a hawkish right-wing government, it is facing its worst diplomatic crisis in two decades.” It goes on to give some examples of international discontent with Israel, “Its sports teams have met hostility and violent protests in Sweden, Spain and Turkey. Mauritania has closed the Israeli Embassy. Relations with Turkey, an important Muslim ally, have suffered severely. A group of top international judges and human rights investigators recently called for an investigation into Israel’s actions in Gaza. ‘Israel Apartheid Week’ drew participants in 54 cities around the world this month, twice the number of last year, according to its organizers. And even in the American Jewish community, albeit in its liberal wing, there is a chill.” The world is already predisposed to fault Israel for the troubles in the Middle East.

Rupert Murdoch, maybe the most powerful media mogul in the world, spoke to the American Jewish Committee about the current status of Israel in the world (I am not Jewish but…). The Jerusalem Post article gives a few examples of the problems that Israel faces: “MOST FUNDAMENTALLY, we see a growing assault on both the legitimacy and security of the State of Israel. This assault comes from people who make clear they have no intention of ever living side-by-side in peace with a Jewish state – no matter how many concessions Israel might make. The reason for this is also clear: These are men who cannot abide the idea of freedom, tolerance and democracy. They hate Israel for the same reasons they hate us.”  He goes on to say, “THE FIRST HANDICAP is military. It’s true that Israel’s conventional superiority means it could flatten Gaza if it wanted. But the Israel Defense Forces – unlike Hamas – are accountable to a democratically chosen government. No matter which party is in the majority, every Israeli government knows it will be held accountable by its people and by the world for the lives that are lost because of its decisions. That’s true for lives of innocent Palestinians caught in the crossfire. And it’s also true for the Israeli soldiers who may lose their lives defending their people. In this kind of war, Hamas does not need to defeat Israel militarily to win a big victory. In fact, Hamas knows that in some ways, dead Palestinians serve its purposes even better than dead Israelis.” The last point Murdoch makes is, “THE SECOND HANDICAP for Israel is the global media war. For Hamas, the images of Palestinian suffering – of people losing their homes, of parents mourning their dead children, of tanks rolling through the streets – create sympathy for its cause. In a battle marked by street to street fighting, the death of innocents is all but inevitable. That is also true of Gaza. And these deaths have led some to call for Israel to be charged with war crimes by an international tribunal. But I am curious: Why do we never hear calls for Hamas leaders to be charged with war crimes?”

Israel has become a “burdensome stone” to all the world. Now the world is wondering whether Israel will attack Iran or Iran will attack Israel with nuclear weapons. Another headline today deals with Russia and Iran: (Reports: Russia confirms Iran missile contract) The article states, Russian news agencies cited a top defense official Wednesday as confirming that a contract to sell powerful air-defense missiles to Iran was signed two years ago, but saying no such weapons have yet been delivered. Russian officials have consistently denied claims the country already has provided some of the S-300 missiles to Iran. They have not said whether a contract existed.” This is important because of a prophecy found in Ezekiel which declares that a coalition of countries will attack Israel in the last days. Two of the countries listed in this prophecy are modern day Russia and Iran. You can read about this prophecy in my article (The Coming Invasion of Israel).

The fact of the matter is that Israel is in the news constantly. Biblical prophecy declared that this would be the case in the End-Times. The world will turn against Israel when it follows after the Antichrist. The Antichrist will rise to power when the world is in economic chaos just as Hitler rose to power during the financial collapse of Germany in the 1920s and the world in the 1930s. Recent events have shown just how quickly the world’s economic systems can fail. Whether or not the current global situation leads to the events listed in End-Times prophecies remains to be seen. It could be that some similar future events bring about the time of trouble that is coming upon the whole world as Jesus declared in Matthew ch. 24. We do know one thing and that is in our modern world events happen quickly so these things could come to pass in a very short time whenever God chooses to initiate them.

Elections reveal fundamental problem for the Israelis concerning the Muslim extremists

Wednesday, February 11th, 2009
Arab Countires and Israel

Arab Countires and Israel

(February 11, 2009)  Yesterday, Israelis citizens voted for a new government. (Consensus forming on Likud-led unity gov’t with Kadima) The result was a close election between the conservative parties and their leader Binyamin Netanyahu and the centrist party Kadima and its leader Tzipi Livni. The Knesset elections resulted in a 65-55 edge for conservative members. This probably means that Netanyahu will emerge as the next prime minister of Israel. However, as the article points out, the end result might be a unity type of government with both parties being well represented. Though there are many factors that may have influenced the decision of individual Israelis to vote for one party ideology or the other, the overriding concern has to be peace and security. In the past the conservative Likud party has mainly opposed unilateral evacuations of the occupied territories which of course led to the status quo of conflict with the Muslim extremists. In 2005, former Likud leader Ariel Sharon departed from his party and formed a new centrist party called Kadima. Kadima supported the evacuation of Jewish citizens from the Gaza Strip and returning the governing of this area to the Arabs. In 2006, the Gaza Arabs elected a plurality of Hamas members to the Palestinian parliament. This led to the isolation of Hamas-led Gaza by Israel and International governments. In 2007, after a civil war between Hamas and Fatah, Hamas became the sole ruling power in the Gaza Strip. Since then Hamas has fired thousands of Qassam rockets into Israel. This escalated into a full scale invasion by Israel in late 2008 which killed many Palestinians. This scenario came about because of the unilateral withdrawal by Israel from Gaza. Thus, the concept of “land for peace” appears to be a failure. However, occupation which seems to be favored by the more conservative groups also proved to be a failure. Neither position has led to peace between Israel and the Arabs. This election showed that the Israeli electorate is unsure of which direction Israel should go in the future thus representatives from both sides of the issue were elected. The one clear result from this election seems to be that Israelis decided that the liberal wing of Israeli politics do not have the answers to deal with this decades-old conflict as is evidenced by their poor showing in this election. The truth is that no matter who runs the Israeli government the Muslim extremists will never accept the right of Israel to exist. They may make temporary truces and agreements with Israel but only with the goal of eventually returning Israel to Dar al-Islam (i.e. an Islamic-run government). See my article (Why There will never be peace in Israel until the Messiah returns)



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